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#1 · (Edited)
Throughout his career Federer has attained numerous records – some of which are very well documented and publicised, others which perhaps are not. But often the question is asked: what more is there left to achieve? For sure there are many tennis records out there, a good number of them would be almost impossible for Federer to beat. But there are also numerous records that can still be equalled and/or broken.

So in this thread – which happens to be my first ;) – I have listed in no particular order, some of the records he has yet to achieve but may yet plausibly attain. They all refer to achievements in singles during the Open Era unless specified otherwise. Of course I have also included what he needs to do to achieve them and will try to update this on a regular basis (your help would be much appreciated with this too).

Note that there are numerous records which Federer has equalled but has not yet surpassed. Depending upon the response I get from this thread, I might include these in the post as well.

I’d just like to add that if Federer does not achieve many (or indeed any) of the records listed below, that does not in any way detract from his achievements thus far. For me at least, his place in tennis history is already sealed, although new chapters of this history are being added as time passes and that perhaps one day it is only reasonable to imagine that a number of Federer’s own records may be caught up to. But for now let us look forward to what there is still to aim for because as Roger states himself:



Update in progress... (stats to be correct correct to Monday 22nd June 2015, week prior to the start of Wimbledon)
Click for selected achievements since the previous update


PS: I am aware that there are more potential records which he can target, which I will add on in due course. In the meantime please let me know if there is anything I have missed out or if there are any important ones which you think should be included here.
Please also let be know if you spot any errors. Thanks :)
 
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#178 ·
Connors: (Grass) - 9

Queens (1972), Australian Open (1974), Manchester (1974), Wimbledon (1974)
US Open (1974), Birmingham (1978), Wimbledon (1982), Queens (1982), Queens (1983)
 
#183 ·
Grass - 10 :
You've forgotten Nottingham (1976) .
 
#180 ·
This list tracks those players who remain active since Roger's slam participation streak began in AO 2000 - 12 years ago. The list is down from 14 to 13, with Gambill's retirement and his zeroed points.

Some significant changes: Ivan Ljubicic has retired, and with his clay points coming off. JCF is now Roger's closest competition at 47. Haas has now recovered his slam eligibility, and Clement should get a WC for RG.

Juan Carlos Ferrero - STILL ACTIVE - (47)
Ivan Ljubicic - RETIRED (53)
Michael Llodra - STILL ACTIVE - (58)
Tommy Haas - STILL ACTIVE - (113)
Arnaud Clement - STILL ACTIVE - (142)
Rainer Schuttler - STILL ACTIVE - (170)
Lleyton Hewitt - STILL ACTIVE - (178)

Christophe Rochus - STILL ACTIVE - (942) [March 3rd 2013] (9 RP)
Noam Okun - STILL ACTIVE - (1049) [June 4th, 2012] (6 RP)
Antony Dupuis - STILL ACTIVE - (1426) [September 10th, 2012] (2 RP)
Jiri Vanek - STILL ACTIVE - (1533) [June 4th 2012] (1 RP)

Rochus with his SF at France F4, resets the count. The other three are rapidly running out of time.

Joseph Sirianni has his last win in November 7th at Ortisei, and so is still active.
George Bastl had his last win in November 14th at Bratislava.

Gambill has retired.
 
#182 ·
What record is this for?
Nothing, it's just a curiousity. Roger, like Jimmy Connors is the last of his generation in the top 5 (with Ferrer at 6).
 
#184 ·
Did you look that tournament up?

1976 - Nottingham.

R64 Frew McMillan (RSA) 73 W 6-4, 6-0
R32 Colin Dibley (AUS) 97 W 6-4, 6-4
R16 Dick Stockton (USA) 26 W 6-4, 6-2
Q Tom Okker (NED) 11 W 6-2, 6-4
S Raul Ramirez (MEX) 10 W 6-3, 6-4
W Ilie Nastase (ROU) 7 W ABN

Here's an account of the Match.

Nastase Leaves NOTTINGHAM England AP

Jimmy Connors and Ilie Nastase clowned and slid all over a wet grass tennis court in the rain for more than an hour Saturday before their Player Tournament final was abandoned.

Connors from Belleville, won the first set; the Romanian Nastase, won the second and they were level at 11 in the third when they decided enough was enough.

So they split the prize money.

Many of the 3800 spectators sat under umbrellas and Connors and Nastase gave them some hilarity. It was more like a knockabout comedy act than a major tournament final and did nothing to solve the problem of who might win Wimbledon which starts Monday.

Connors is the favorite for Wimbledon seeded No 2 behind Arthur Ashe the defending champion. Nastase is seeded No 3.

Connors had gone through this Wimbledon warmup without losing a set until Saturday's watery final. It was already raining when the players took the court but they agreed to try and play for a few games and see how things went.

Nobody took it very seriously. Connors slipped on the wet turf and sprawled headlong on the court. Nastase then told him how to fall. "Do it gracefully like this!" the Romanian said striking a pose like a ballerina.

Connors then borrowed a spectator's umbrella and held it with his right hand while serving.

While this fooling was going on, Nastase said to the umpire, "Play should be continuous! Tell him!" The crowd screamed with laughter. Earlier in the week Nastase had been reprimanded for interrupting the flow of play by arguing over line calls.

In what serious tennis there was, Nastase hit some cleverly angled shots that had Connors helpless in the slippery conditions and Connors volleyed with a vengeance.

Nastase broke service in the opening game of the third and the farce ended with Connors sliding a couple of yards to hit a volley and break back in the next game.
 
#186 ·
Yessir. He's now Emperor of the Slams.
 
#189 ·
Roger would come back #1 if he wins Wimbledon and Djokovic doesn't reach the final. I doesn't metter who is his oponent at the final
 
#191 ·
I thought there was a 3d about the records of Roger but I don't find it (maybe I dreamed it) so I guess the right 3d is this.

As it's official there will be no anymore blue clay in 2013 and maybe in the future we can tell that ROGER FEDERER IS THE ONLY WINNER OF A MASTERS 1000 TOURNAMENT ON BLUE CLAY!!!
 
#194 ·
Hi ApproachShot nice to have you back

I would like to add for consideration a few more records yet to reach:

- Another FO would make him the only person with "career double slam"
- Nadal has him beat for winning 2 slams each on clay, grass and hard. Not sure if anyone in earlier days did that. Fed needs another FO to match him
- Although he has the most slam finals appearances he does not have the most "won or lost to the eventual champ." He is at 28 vs. Lendl at 31
- Olympic singles gold
- Davis Cup
 
#195 ·
Nadal has him beat for winning 2 slams each on clay, grass and hard. Not sure if anyone in earlier days did that
Mats Wilander.

2 AO (Grass), 1 AO (Hard), 1 USO (Hard), 2 RG Clay. 7 slams, 2 on each surface plus an extra one on clay.
 
#197 ·
A new record has been added yesterday, 32 Grand Slam semifinals
 
#198 ·
Federer is now certain to be ahead of Sampras for the number of weeks in the top-2 : he's certain to be in the top-2 until after the Canada open at least, which means at least 382 weeks.

Sampras stopped at 376 weeks.

Lendl can be considered quite around the same number although it's not easy to estimate as the rankings were not updated weekly in that time : at most 403 I had estimated in the past.

Nadal is already at 343 weeks :eek:

Of course, if Fed wins Wimbledon, he will overtake Sampras for the number of weeks at number 1 and be a number 1 at 31 years old, which seldom happened ... and win one more slam :lol:

Now with 32 slam semifinals he holds this record alone, not together with Connors.
 
#206 ·
so happy that now we can strike the #1 weeks record off this list.... personally... of all the records that federer had yet to achieve... the most weeks at #1 is right at the TOP of my personal list of "the records that federer might achieve but has yet to" ... and in this list i also feel that it's also one of the biggest (calendar/non-calendar slam would probably be the biggest)...

now that we are done with that... what is the next record you would MOST like to see federer achieve...?? personally... i'd like him to:
1) get the olympic gold and complete career golden slam...
2) tie the most years ending in #1 record...
3) calendar or non-calendar slam...

i think right now.. this year federer has a pretty decent chance of achieving (1) and (2) ... and (3) would be the biggest record that federer has yet achieved --- but is also something which unfortunately i doubt even he could achieve at his age.... but there is no finish line... as long as federer still remains healthy and in top form... we can always dream.... :)


regards,
wacky
 
#209 ·
Obviously, winning a 6th US Open title - which would give him the Open Era record - is much more important to me then tying most years ending as the world no. 1 or taking that more marginal event at the Olympic Games. However, if he wins the US Open then surely that sixth year-ending number 1 year will follow accordingly. He can extend his WTF record to 7 while he's at it and then win an 8th Wimbledon.

I'd like Federer to become the all time leader for singles major titles out of men and women, despite them being different realms. I'm almost certain he won't achieve this. He needs to ride this wave of confidence and form as it might be his last lengthy stint of near peak play. Playing like he has done over the last months, he can certainly win 2 or so more majors over the next 5 or so events.

Oh, and a 2nd RG title, please. That's actually the one I want the most.

A realistic list, then:

1. Second RG title
2. Eighth Wimbledon title
3. Sixth US Open title
4. Years as no.1, YEC record extensions, sole record at AO etc etc etc etc.

Unrealistic wishes:

- CYGS
- NCYGS
- 25 or more Majors
- 10 Wimbledon titles
- 3 titles minimum at every Major
 
#207 ·
Yet to come my personal favorite would be the as-yet-unacheived "career double slam." It means, 2 or more at every slam. would that be crazy or what? One more Rolland Garros and he's done. (Laver did it but only half of those were in Open era, and back then the slams were not played on as many different surfaces.) OK I did not say it would be easy!
 
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