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If Roger is faking his injury or back prob, the presumably the same argument can be applied to others who pull from tournaments? I seriously doubt Roger is faking anything ... anyone who has had a niggling back problem knows the score ... no 2 probs are the same, the niggle can be there all the time, or intermittent (as mine is) or flare when you've overdone it ... problem being you don't know you've overdone it until you have overdone it. I just hope that whatever is the problem or concern is that it doesn't become chronic (as mine has).
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I don't believe Roger is the faking type but this current withdrawal is probably a result of a combination of issues he's probably facing with his tennis at the moment, and one of the main one's besides his back issue is bearing with his most difficult loss to date. Mentally he must be very drained and he needs a little breather to think over things and come up with a tackling plan. Hopefully that is the case whereby he arrives stronger and fitter than ever.

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Re: ****** Dubai Tournament Lets Hope To See Rogii Holding His 2nd Home Trophy ***

I don't know why we can't take the man at his word and why we have to come up with all these other reasons for him withdrawing. We've seen the serving problems he's had this year - especially in the AO final against Nadal. So it's not entirely surprising. Also, Tony Godsick told the media Roger was in Switzerland getting treatment for his back. Is Godsick telling a white lie too?

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I don't know why we can't take the man at his word and why we have to come up with all these other reasons for him withdrawing. We've seen the serving problems he's had this year - especially in the AO final against Nadal. So it's not entirely surprising. Also, Tony Godsick told the media Roger was in Switzerland getting treatment for his back. Is Godsick telling a white lie too?
Agree with you there. All these assumptions are getting tedious *yawns*. Give Rog the benefit of the doubt, after all he has only had one frigging walk over his entire life and NO retirement from a match what so ever. That record speaks volumes for his sportsmanship, and at 27 he has the RIGHT to take the correct precautionary measures. Some people here are so ignorant, just realise that by doing this Rog is actually prolonging his career and not putting any unnecessary strain on his body. He isn't getting younger either so in my opinion, even though its tough for us fans to deal with, its a wise move in the long run.

I can't believe I have had to say this in Roger's own forum You know its a sad state when Roger's own fans start doubting him let alone those other people who don't even give a sh*t about him on GM and start rambling on calling him a pussy.


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I don't believe Roger is the faking type but this current withdrawal is probably a result of a combination of issues he's probably facing with his tennis at the moment, and one of the main one's besides his back issue is bearing with his most difficult loss to date. Mentally he must be very drained and he needs a little breather to think over things and come up with a tackling plan. Hopefully that is the case whereby he arrives stronger and fitter than ever.
I don't agree with that. Being what he is, it is ridiculous to me to think that he is still not over that loss Also, I would think nothing beats last Wimbledon...Anyway...

I think obviously his goal this year, or from this year onwards, is the big things only. He will do anything to make sure he is in his best possible form when it matters. Honestly, DC takes a lot out of him, for nothing. Dubai is simply nothing. He might also feel the need to give his back more treatment just to ensure it gets back to 100% before it gets worse if he plays. There could also be a new-coach issue...?

Not a big deal at all to pull out of the two tournaments for me. I actually expect more withdrawals from him in the future.
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everything he spent years building up just dissapeared in that tournament .. the way he spoke about other players, the way he lost that final, the pathetic way he conducted himself after losing it, showing the whole planet he is Nadal's bunny and crying about it
Mikey, IMHO that's quite harsh...Whatever happened in AO doesn't take away all that he's achieved in the past years
You yourself have complained about Federer shooting his mouth off in GM and here too for many months, so atleast for those with that opinion, this shouldn't be new..
The way he lost the final, I agree, was horrible, but again, unfortunately, not all that new..
Everybody already knew that Nadal has his number and that Roger isn't very confident against Nadal.. And Roger is an emotional person, and while I wish he hadn't cried, to call him "pathetic" for being unable to control his feelings, for being who he always has been, isn't all that fair...


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Agree with you there. All these assumptions are getting tedious *yawns*. Give Rog the benefit of the doubt, after all he has only had one frigging walk over his entire life and NO retirement from a match what so ever. That record speaks volumes for his sportsmanship, and at 27 he has the RIGHT to take the correct precautionary measures. Some people here are so ignorant, just realise that by doing this Rog is actually prolonging his career and not putting any unnecessary strain on his body. He isn't getting younger either so in my opinion, even though its tough for us fans to deal with, its a wise move in the long run.

I can't believe I have had to say this in Roger's own forum You know its a sad state when Roger's own fans start doubting him let alone those other people who don't even give a sh*t about him on GM and start rambling on calling him a pussy.

I agree.. While Roger might have considered other factors along with his back injury, to say that him wanting to make sure that his back is completely recovered is a lie isn't called for.. He's 27, he wants to be completely fit after a bad time last year, and is it completely inconceivable that he just wants to take precaution against risking further damage?
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Re: ****** Dubai Tournament Lets Hope To See Rogii Holding His 2nd Home Trophy ***

Luthi and Paganini are reported in the Swiss press saying that Roger's back was not 100% at AO.

http://www.lematin.ch/sports/tennis/...t-jamais-86475

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Nadal and Verdasco pull out of Dubai and it's get well soon. Roger pulls out and he's lying just to cover up the fact he still dealing with his embarrassing loss at AO and pathetic reaction afterwards. Nice.

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hmm... I don't understand this thread title "His 2nd Home Trophy"... Rogi has 4 Dubai titles [and 3 Basel titles]...

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hmm... I don't understand this thread title "His 2nd Home Trophy"... Rogi has 4 Dubai titles [and 3 Basel titles]...
second as in his "second home" trophy... i think.

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Luthi and Paganini are reported in the Swiss press saying that Roger's back was not 100% at AO.

http://www.lematin.ch/sports/tennis/...t-jamais-86475
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Ugh...I get so sick of reading some of the things around here! So Roger pulls out of Dubai and DC because he has an injury, and no one believes him. And yet when Nadal pulls out of Dubai because of injury no one questions him and everyone wishes him well. Everyone blasts Roger for indirectly suggesting that his injury is responsible for his Aus Open loss (even though Roger himself has directly stated no such thing), and yet every time Nadal explains losses on tiredness and injury the response is 'oh *insert other player's name here* didn't really win fairly, because Rafa was tired/injured, poor Rafa I hope he gets better soon'.

Why should anyone doubt Roger's injury? Does he use the injury/tired excuse as much as Nadal and Djoker? He never retires from matches, and yet he it is suggested that he doesn't show respect because he's not playing DC. And yet when other players (such as Nadal)don't show up for DC rounds it's the same 'oh fair enough, they were just tired/injured, I hope they get better soon.' Now I don't have anything against Rafa as a player or a person. But the hypocrisy shown by some tennis fans and the media is astounding. It's like they have higher expectations of Roger and gleefully tear him down every time he does something that they could spin into something negative. I really feel for Roger, because if I was in his position and had to deal with all of this negativity in addition to trying to focus on my career and health I would probably lose it.

One thing I can say about the whole thing is it really reveals some people's true colours. They may have been exclaiming about how 'Roger is the GOAT' when he was number 1, but as soon as they find weaknesses they forget all about the incredible years he had as a player and his 13 GS, and show an embarrassing amount of disrespect to a great player and champion. Absolutely ignorant, dispicable, mean-spirited and shallow. I love hanging around this board though, because the true Roger fans would never spit on him for being human and not being physically infallable.

Sorry guys, just had to get that out after reading days and days worth of negativity, ignorant criticism, and bs from the media and GM. I hope Roger gets better soon, and I do think he is doing the right thing by taking more time out for himself, and not letting himself be pressured.
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Ugh...I get so sick of reading some of the things around here! So Roger pulls out of Dubai and DC because he has an injury, and no one believes him. And yet when Nadal pulls out of Dubai because of injury no one questions him and everyone wishes him well. Everyone blasts Roger for indirectly suggesting that his injury is responsible for his Aus Open loss (even though Roger himself has directly stated no such thing), and yet every time Nadal explains losses on tiredness and injury the response is 'oh *insert other player's name here* didn't really win fairly, because Rafa was tired/injured, poor Rafa I hope he gets better soon'.

Why should anyone doubt Roger's injury? Does he use the injury/tired excuse as much as Nadal and Djoker? He never retires from matches, and yet he it is suggested that he doesn't show respect because he's not playing DC. And yet when other players (such as Nadal)don't show up for DC rounds it's the same 'oh fair enough, they were just tired/injured, I hope they get better soon.' Now I don't have anything against Rafa as a player or a person. But the hypocrisy shown by some tennis fans and the media is astounding. It's like they have higher expectations of Roger and gleefully tear him down every time he does something that they could spin into something negative. I really feel for Roger, because if I was in his position and had to deal with all of this negativity in addition to trying to focus on my career and health I would probably lose it.

One thing I can say about the whole thing is it really reveals some people's true colours. They may have been exclaiming about how 'Roger is the GOAT' when he was number 1, but as soon as they find weaknesses they forget all about the incredible years he had as a player and his 13 GS, and show an embarrassing amount of disrespect to a great player and champion. Absolutely ignorant, dispicable, mean-spirited and shallow. I love hanging around this board though, because the true Roger fans would never spit on him for being human and not being physically infallable.

Sorry guys, just had to get that out after reading days and days worth of negativity, ignorant criticism, and bs from the media and GM. I hope Roger gets better soon, and I do think he is doing the right thing by taking more time out for himself, and not letting himself be pressured.
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