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I'm glad that Murray and Nalbandian are not in Fed's quarter. Don't tell me that they've done nothing lately. I know that if they get to play Fed, they will show up, and both players are difficult match ups for him.

Soderling can be dangerous, considering that Fed himself noticed his worsened first serve return.

As for Jerk, he's somewhat an akward mover (sliding)/volleyer on the surface. Fed of 2004-2006 would explore these shortcomings, but nothing is guaranteed this year.

If you look at Fed's game on grass, he should be a favorite against the rest of the field on paper. But his head is in question. Also, when he dominated, he used to step up in the sf/f, this year ... well, we all saw it.
I don't know about that.

He has been in the SF 6 times this year and has lost once to Novak in the AO when he was still recovering from Mono.

He has been in the F 5 times and has lost 3 times to Nadal on clay. Out of those three loses, the three times that he simply mentally broke down were in MC, Hamburg and the 3rd set in the RG final.

The only conclusion I can make from these loses is that he pretty much gave up against Nadal on clay when he should have been mentally tougher. Does that translate to him losing in Wimbly against anyone but Nadal? No.

Even if he and Nadal were to meet in the final, I am pretty sure that it is going to be highly competitive.

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if you get the coldness of numbers and start counting the season since indian wells, roger has had a better season than last year, despite not winning a masters series.

so he is not all that lost.

the only HUGE problem in my opinion was his loss, THAT WAY, against Nadal in Roland Garros. Because apart from that, everything is good to me. He had some ridiculous losses last years, like against Volandri,
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Does that translate to him losing in Wimbly against anyone but Nadal? No.
Mahesh, I did not imply that he was going to lose before the semis at least. My non MD head has no idea how much his performances were affected by mono. I just look at the facts: the semi in Aus (looked old and slow), the final in Paris (totally outplayed, mentally looked absent). Throw here MC and Hamburg. It doesn't mean that he can't turn it around on his favorite surface. But it remains to be seen if he's recovered from psychological blows he had to take this season.

P.S. Keep in mind, I only saw highlights from Halle. Perhaps, if I saw his matches, I'd be more optimistic. Not losing his serve over the entire tournament is a very good sign though..

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Murray, 21, had spent the last few days on the practice courts at SW19
fine-tuning his preparations for the tournament, which starts on
Monday. The Scot said: "The courts are a little bit faster than previous
years, which is good."

from: news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tennis/7464975.stm

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No Murray, no Nalbandian, no Ivo...that's good. Not an easy draw, but not brutal either. Soderling will be tough in the 2nd round. 4th round could be a lot of players, but probably Hewitt. QF could be anybody.

Djokovic to the SF's without any problems. His 3rd and 4th round matches are a joke.

Nadal could have a tougher time.
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Actually should he win his first round, which I still believe he'l win comfortably, playing Soderling in the second round would only toughen Federer up. He'l get to see where his return of serve is and test him early on, all which are good things going into the second week of the tournament hopefully.

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Mahesh, I did not imply that he was going to lose before the semis at least. My non MD head has no idea how much his performances were affected by mono. I just look at the facts: the semi in Aus (looked old and slow), the final in Paris (totally outplayed, mentally looked absent). Throw here MC and Hamburg. It doesn't mean that he can't turn it around on his favorite surface. But it remains to be seen if he's recovered from psychological blows he had to take this season.

P.S. Keep in mind, I only saw highlights from Halle. Perhaps, if I saw his matches, I'd be more optimistic. Not losing his serve over the entire tournament is a very good sign though..
He played well in Halle. I saw a few matches and he looked solid off the ground and was serving quite well. His serve return was a bit off so that will be something to watch out for at Wimbly.

The interesting thing for me is that I am still unwilling to give him the benefit of doubt were he to meet Nadal in the final. Anyone else, and I am positive that we are looking at a 6th consecutive win. He has done so in the past two years and won but I still feel that he can lose. I guess the beating he got in the RG final didn't help matters.

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Murray, 21, had spent the last few days on the practice courts at SW19
fine-tuning his preparations for the tournament, which starts on
Monday. The Scot said: "The courts are a little bit faster than previous
years, which is good."

from: news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tennis/7464975.stm
I would like to find out what Roger thinks but I am pretty sure that he will say that the speed is the same as the past few years.

The one thing working in his favor is that the roof was more open at center court last year due to construction and Fed was having trouble with the swirling wind and the angle of the sunlight in some of his matches.

This time, they have brought it back to what it was in 2006 (with some modifications for the closed roof in 2009) so he should be more comfortable with his game on center court.

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I don't understand how people could drool over Rafa's biceps when the Arm is so obviously superior Sadly some people will never understand that.

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Basically you are saying that you are another one of those Fedals.
Exactly

She just needed a little help to admit it
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still one match at a time... enormous pressure on Rogi as per usual... as for the draw, if he is to win his 6th consecutive Wimby, he just has to beat everyone...

Rogi vs. the odds big time this year

is Rogi in top form? I don't know as I didn't see Halle -- someone can answer this Q for me. it's all about the confidence, which Rogi has not had this year thus preventing him fr taking a few titles...

TFA in the final -- I'll write his name in my draw now...

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Is the Champion of last year will play first match in Wimby?
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I think that´s right, Suktuen~~~but I am not certain.
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From what I saw he is playing as well on grass as he ever has.
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From what I saw he is playing as well on grass as he ever has.
Really? That's great news then!

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Good strong draw for Roger !!! I always like it when Roger has tougher draws. I have no doubt that roger will smoke Djoke in the semis, if Djoke gets there!!! Hopefully he plays a better final than what he did last year, though I must say that he really stepped it up in the 5th set. Lets Go Roger !!!!



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