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Stats don't mean much?

From ATP's page, we can compare the 2003 stats and 2004 stats up until now. It seems Roger did better last year overall on the stats sheet, first and second serve points won, aces, almost everything is worse than last year. Didn't even make the 2nd serve points won list.

How come Roger is doing better this year but is doing worse on the stats sheet? Is it just because we haven't played the grass season? Or, does that mean stats don't mean anything?
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Re: Stats don't mean much?

.He also has a brain to go with his talent now.He played lest and has not play the grass season yet. He appears in most of the least contrary to many other players which meant that he is a more complete player than most.

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Re: Stats don't mean much?

Also, a lot more people try to beat the Number 1 player (for their own confidence) than they did the Number 4 player

Hey guys, did you see that on the ATP page? If Coria had won today, he would have been Number 1 in the INDESIT race. Rogi really really needs to pull it together in the next several weeks to keep himself Number 1 till the end of the year
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Yes, mitalidas, that's one of the many reasons why I wanted Gaston to win today. Muchas gracias, el Gato!!

OK, now that I've expended a ton of energy cheering for Gaston, back to cheering for my #1 guy, ROGI!!!

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Re: Stats don't mean much?

well, even if he had slipped to #2, clay is over... for the most part.
i don't know why his stats aren't so good. he's prolly playing better balanced tennis and he's not relying on one thing, so he doesn't have anything that's at the top of the rankings, but he's so solid all around that he's a dominant #1.

Maybe Roger can win Roland Garros.......
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Re: Stats don't mean much?

His stats will improve if he has a succesful grass season, particularly his serving stats (last year he only lost serve at Wimbledon a handful of times)

Plus tennis is more about winning the key points rather then great stats
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Re: Stats don't mean much?

*Bump*

And what happens after 2 months?

He is now in all the serving stats except 1st serve percentage, and is leading in 2nd serve points won, service games won, and most impressively, break points saved. Saving 74% of the break points is just unbelievable.
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Re: Stats don't mean much?

You can find this year's players stats now on http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/matchfacts/

These are Roger's stats:

Aces

3. Federer 695 aces in 80 matches


Second service points won

2. Federer 58%


1st serve percentage

15. Federer 64%


Service games won

3. Federer 89%


1st serve points won

5. Federer 77%


Break points saved

1. Federer 68%


Points won returning 1st serve

8. Federer 32%


Break points converted

22. Federer 41%


Points won returning 2nd serve

9. Federer 53%


Return games won

10. Federer 27%


Swiss homepage 20min. also included the following stats:

Matches won

1. Nadal 82:11 88,2%
2. Federer 66:15 81,5%
3. Djokovic 64:17 79,0%

Longest winning streak

1. Nadal 32
2. DelPotro 23
3. Murray 14
4. Federer 11

Tiebreaks

1. Nalbandian 17:4 81%
2. Baghdatis 8:3 72,7%
Benneteau

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Federer 25:13 65,8%

Indoor results

1. Murray 20:3 87%
2. Nalbandian 14:3 82,4%
3. Federer 12:3 80,0%

Results against Top 10 players

1. Nadal 17:6 73,9%
2. Davydenko 9:5 64,3%
3. Tsonga 8:5 61,5%

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Federer 7:10 41,2%

Outdoor results

1. Nadal 75:8 90,4%
2. Djokovic 53:11 82,8%
3. Federer 54:12 81,8%

Source: http://www.20min.ch/sport/tennis/sto...s-ist-29643506
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Re: Stats don't mean much?

Wow I can't believe Roger was #1 this year in BP saved. And #3 in aces.

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Wow I can't believe Roger was #1 this year in BP saved. And #3 in aces.
I think the stats clearly show what was very obvious - that he now relies on his serve more than ever. No problem, as long as he keeps it going!

His BP-conversion stats though, are truly

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I think the stats clearly show what was very obvious - that he now relies on his serve more than ever. No problem, as long as he keeps it going!

His BP-conversion stats though, are truly
Hmm...I thought Nadal used to be the king of BP saves. Who was ahead of Roger in the aces stats? Roddick and Karlovic?

Honestly I quite like the idea of Roger as the Serve King.

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I think the stats clearly show what was very obvious - that he now relies on his serve more than ever. No problem, as long as he keeps it going!
is the ace count stat purely on the number of aces or does the ranking take an average of aces per match?
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