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Of course my ultimate scenario would be for Nadal NOT to win Paris and Roddick to show up in Shanghai.

I haven't heard anything credible that Roddick is a possible no-show. I'm sure he'll want to get some matches in before DC and not go into DC cold without any match play since the last DC tie.

But I really don't want Nalbandian there because I don't consider him one of the best 8 players over the course of the year. He just happened to find his form at the end of the year when other guys are tired, injured or not motivated because they've already qualified for TMC or know their YE ranking is pretty much decided.

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I think Roddick will show up. He's not going to go cold into the DC finals. Playing 3 top 10 players will be good practice for him.

The TMC is all about who gets the most points and if Nalbandian can get the most points, he should be there. Yeah, he sucked a fat one until the end of the year, but winning 2 TMS events in a row is a huge rarity outside of Federer and Nadal on clay so if he's there it won't bother me that much.

What Federer needs is some rest after the season, then some intense training starting in mid December. He looked depleted against Nalbandian in Paris with nothing on his serve or FH. I think he'll be back in full force at the AO.
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I don't expect Roddick to pull out either... I just read some rather unconfirmed rumours of him supposedly being injured. But there's a lot of $$$$ at stake, and so is his credibility (at least I think so), so I'd say it's about 90% sure he'll indeed be there. Which will leave Nalby out anyways.

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I don't expect Roddick to pull out either... I just read some rather unconfirmed rumours of him supposedly being injured. But there's a lot of $$$$ at stake, and so is his credibility (at least I think so), so I'd say it's about 90% sure he'll indeed be there. Which will leave Nalby out anyways.

Karin, love your new avi. Personally, I do not care who shows up in Shanghai. Roger cannot avoid every player who threatens him, before Nalbi, it was Djoko, before Djoko it was Canas...and so on. So, BRING IT ON, and may the better player win.

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I don't expect Roddick to pull out either... I just read some rather unconfirmed rumours of him supposedly being injured. But there's a lot of $$$$ at stake, and so is his credibility (at least I think so), so I'd say it's about 90% sure he'll indeed be there. Which will leave Nalby out anyways.
I hope your right. His website is very vague about Shanghai right now. I think it would be really crappy if he did pull out like in 2005. You can bet if it was being played in the USA (or London even) he wouldn't be a question mark.

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Karin, love your new avi. Personally, I do not care who shows up in Shanghai. Roger cannot avoid every player who threatens him, before Nalbi, it was Djoko, before Djoko it was Canas...and so on. So, BRING IT ON, and may the better player win.
Thankees. I thought it appropriate to send Rogi my virtual best wishes in the form of him having a well-deserved rest.

You are right, and of course to be a real great champion, you should be able to WIN against anyone. I don't doubt Roger can do exactly that (question is rather: WILL he? ).
My post was in reply to Mirkaland's who asked about Nalby's chances of appearing in Shanghai.

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I hope your right. His website is very vague about Shanghai right now. I think it would be really crappy if he did pull out like in 2005. You can bet if it was being played in the USA (or London even) he wouldn't be a question mark.
Oh, no question about it at all. It's a well-known fact that Roddick doesn't like to leave the US at all - he always makes himself scarce during the European tournaments as well (with Wimbly as an exception indeed).

Still, unless I read more convincing statements on his 'injury', I expect him to turn up in Shanghai all the same.

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roger needs to find his bh fast.

piggy, joker and donkey will exploit the crap out of that shot.

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One of the Bryans told Fox Sports that Roddick is 50/50 on whether he'll go to Shanghai. Because DC is all that is motivating him right now. If he doesn't go to Shangahi that will be the 5th MS event this year that he's missed. Amazing how some players can get away with this shit and others get fined for lack of effort.

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Amazing indeed! I never understood the fact he qualified for Shanghai despite his no shows and not winning any important title.

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Amazing indeed! I never understood the fact he qualified for Shanghai despite his no shows and not winning any important title.
this has not been one of roddick's best years.

he didnt make a TMS final or a GS final.

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What a joke though if Fat Dave some how ends up in Shanghai just because of two good performances at the end of the year when the other top guys are spent from performing well over the course of the entire year. But Roddick obviously only cares about DC right now so he may decide not to make the trip to Shanghai and I can't see the ATP putting any pressure on him to go. He pulled out of Madrid and Paris and it was no big deal.
Just two good performances? Who else in the past three years has won 2 MS titles in a season? Especially if he wins Paris, Fat Dave totally deserves to be in Shanghai, at least based on current form. He's earned his points legitimately. Of course, there would be something hilariously ironic about him getting into the tournament as an alternate for a second time.
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Just two good performances? Who else in the past three years has won 2 MS titles in a season? Especially if he wins Paris, Fat Dave totally deserves to be in Shanghai, at least based on current form. He's earned his points legitimately. Of course, there would be something hilariously ironic about him getting into the tournament as an alternate for a second time.
esp when murray or baghdatis had chances to qualify

nalbandian is far more deserving than both of those but its good that richie qualified.

gonzo truba's season is like the mirror image of nalbandian. Good in the first quarter and then crap the rest.

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Just two good performances? Who else in the past three years has won 2 MS titles in a season? Especially if he wins Paris, Fat Dave totally deserves to be in Shanghai, at least based on current form. He's earned his points legitimately. Of course, there would be something hilariously ironic about him getting into the tournament as an alternate for a second time.
So he deserves to be there because he's hot right now even though he's sucked for most of the year? Even if he wins Paris he still wouldn't qualify based on race points, he'd only slip in if someone else withdraws. To me that does not equal totally deserving to be there, just because he's hot and playing well right now.

If Nalbandian was more deserving than some who qualified (or nearly qualified) then he would be there outright. Davydenko beat him at RG, Baggy beat him at Wimbledon and Ferrer beat him at the US Open. I don't care that he's the most talented player on tour. TMC should be about results over an entire year, not two weeks at the end of the year.

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if David win tonight, that he may be can go to Shanghai~~
I don't want to see him~~~

if Nadal win, that Roger's ranking will be more tough next year~~

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I just hope nalbandian won't go to Shanguai!

Let's not talk history yet. He's still making it.
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