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"I don't practice as hard as I used to."

“I don’t practise as hard as I used to,” he said.
That's one quote out of context....

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I did not say that he doesn't need a coach. But at first, he he has to sort out some things himself. He can talk to a coach/a shrink until the cows come home, but it's up to him to start working harder, stay motivated and get rid of the fear of making headlines in case of a loss.
What does he need to sort out for himself? Whether or not he wants to keep winning? Whether or not he wants to remain no. 1? What?

There are very, very few people in this world that can be as self-sufficient as you are thinking Roger should be. At some point, most people need some extra support. I think Roger is at that point. When the pressure becomes too much for a person, one of the side effects is a decrease in work ethic. But, of course, I don't know what is Roger's present work ethic.

I don't think Roger needs a shrink. As I said, he needs a coach for the many reasons I stated already. He needs someone in his corner, that he can trust, to give him feedback.



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Not to stop the doom and gloom parade, but he still has a very good chance of making the SF here. I think he will tighten his game against Andy as he always does and Davy right now is simply spinning serves in so Fed has many chances to break him.
If there are 3 players with 2-1 record, then things get complicated. I don't remember the rules. What would they be looking for?
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He said in the press to the effect that other people thought it was easier to beat him now but he didn't think so and that he would react with his actions, not only this week, but also next year.

Does that mean he still has motivation? Well Roger, I'm looking forward.
I hope he means that and we see it in the Davydenko and Roddick matches. I certainly don't believe he doesn't care about TMC. And now he knows that passive shit isn't going to get the job done here.

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Not to stop the doom and gloom parade, but he still has a very good chance of making the SF here. I think he will tighten his game against Andy as he always does and Davy right now is simply spinning serves in so Fed has many chances to break him.
I agree this loss doesn't mean he won't make it to the SF. But, this loss does give cause for some scratching of the head. Furthermore, there's also a chance Gonzo will not make it to the SF.



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I too hope he can give himself time to think it over where he wants to go from here and how, instead of just sitting on his past achievements and so-called aura hoping his opponents will succumb. Otherwise, a quick fall from the top will follow, even for sb as great as him.
i agree... i don't think there is any more aura left in federer now... unlike in 2004-2005 time. i believe given his number of surprising losses... and the number of scrappy wins... his opponents now believes that you don't have to play out-of-the-world tennis to defeat federer now. and the more federer loses... the more his weaknesses are exposed to the rest of the field. watching federer's losses would be great lessons (psychologically and technically) for anyone wishing to defeat him. opponents now will not simply crumble from nerves at crucial points easily. it might not even been enough to dominate even if the same federer in 2004-2005 plays now... as i believe the overall standard of tennis has improved... and i think federer has contributed significantly to the standard of play...


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If there are 3 players with 2-1 record, then things get complicated. I don't remember the rules. What would they be looking for?
Number of sets won...I think



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Number of sets won...I think
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When the pressure becomes too much for a person, one of the side effects is a decrease in work ethic.
Some people start working very hard when their back is against the wall. I know them personally.

He needs a coach for tennistic (does this word exist?) reasons. All mental/motivational problems he has to resolve himself.
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Some people start working very hard when their back is against the wall. I know them personally.

He needs a coach for tennistic (does this word exist?) reasons. All mental/motivational problems he has to resolve himself.
Yes, I know them personally too......but, most of those people needed to express their doubts and fears to someone, then come up with a game plan to tackle the obstacles...........and it was an extra bonus, for those people, knowing someone was in their corner to give feedback.

But, I stick with my statement, one of the side effects of pressure and fear is a decrease in work ethic. I do not know if that applies to Roger because we don't know his work ethic. But, he is looking rather fit.



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i agree... i don't think there is any more aura left in federer now... unlike in 2004-2005 time.
Where did this aura come from in 2004? Fed has been on tour since 1998. He was beaten regularly by everyone. And then , all of a sudden, he developes some aura.
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That's one quote out of context....
OK. Where's the real interview?
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Bleh at this loss, I am more angry with Feds play. Hope this light that fire in his loins, this passive play is really starting to piss me off

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Look at the headline on Yahoo front page:

Federer loses back-to-back matches for first time in 4 1/2 years

This is what made news...



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Yes, I know them personally too......but, most of those people needed to express their doubts and fears to someone
Typical female point of view.
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