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Re: Federers ranking points and the fight to remain at #1

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Nadal played well at IW last year by not losing a set until the semifnals, where he lost to Blake. The courts at IW and Miami suit his game a lot better than the ones during summer because they are slower and he has time to set up his forehand. If he gets good draws this summer and avoids the big hitters, he can gain some points but I don't expect that to happen.

I also don't think he will be in the Wimbledon final again, unless he gets a draw like last year.


You may be right about Indian Wells & Miami courts being slower & suiting Nadal`s game better

However don`t forget that in 2005 Nadal won Canada-TMS also
>>>So he`s proven he can adapt to faster hard courts as well..
Besides he`s even won a TMS on fast indoor [Madrid 05]..

Nadal is surely not the 2nd best player on grass, but his aura of a champion & his relentless playing style could well take Nadal to another Wimby final~~> & if his opponent in the final is anybody not named FEDERER then RAFA has a good chance of winning that too

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This year the race to finish #1 is going to be very close
#FED made things difficult for himself by losing to Canas early at both IW & Miami TMS [there were 1000 points to defend there & he handed some freebies to Nadal ]..
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Updated with Nadals points!
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Clay season is going to end soon.

I think Roger won't lose his no.1 spot to anyone this year.

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*UPDATED WITH NADALS POINTS*

Roger Federers points scored in 2007:
Australian Open (hard) WINNER: 1000
Dubai (hard) WINNER: 300
TMS Indian Wells (hard) R64: 5
TMS Miami (hard) R16: 75

TMS Monte Carlo (clay) FINALIST: 350
TMS Rome (clay) R16: 75

TMS Hamburg (clay) WINNER: 500


Rafael Nadals points scored in 2007:
Chennai (hard) SF: 75
Sydney (hard) R32: 0
Australian Open (hard) QF: 250
Dubai (hard) QF: 75
TMS Indian Wells (hard) WINNER: 500
TMS Miami (hard) QF: 125

TMS Monte Carlo (clay) WINNER: 500
Barcelona (clay) WINNER: 300
TMS Rome (clay) WINNER: 500

TMS Hamburg (clay) FINALIST: 350



Rogers total for 2007: 2255 points
Nadals total for 2007: 2675 points

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From TMS Indian Wells --> TMS Rome... FED lost a lot of ground to RAFA

*FED accumulated just 505-points during this stretch
*RAFA accumulated a huge 1925-points over the same stretch


...During the first 4-TMS events of 07 FED put himself on the backfoot with early exits~~> especially Indian Wells & Miami losses to Canas were a blow, thereby improving Nadal`s chances of getting #1 dramatically
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Re: Federers ranking points and the fight to remain at #1

the record is important, but I think Roger is not play tennis only for break the record~!!!

GO Roger!!!! It's Show time!!
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the record is important, but I think Roger is not play tennis only for break the record~!!!

GO Roger!!!! It's Show time!!
He's already got the record for consecutive weeks at #1. There's still a LOOOOONG was to go to the record for most weeks at #1 overall.
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Re: Federer vs Nadal ranking points (First post always updated)

Yeah, is he be World NO.1 174 weeks now?
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Re: Federer vs Nadal ranking points (First post always updated)

Well, at least now we can conclude that Roger has scored more points during this clay season than during last year's clay season.
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Re: Federer vs Nadal ranking points (First post always updated)

I hope it will be more high marks of Roger tommorrow.
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Re: Federer vs Nadal ranking points (First post always updated)

Updated after RG

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Assume the worst case scenario : TFA wins IW, 3 Masters on clay and FO. He will have 600 ponts in the race and 3000 points in the entry ranking. He usually gets at least to the quarters in GS tournaments, that will give him another 750 ranking points. He'll get appr 700-1000 points from optional events. It's 4400- 4700 points in total without Shanghai, Montreal, Cincy, Miami, Madrid, Paris. So, to stay No1 at the end of the year Federer has to get appr 6000+ points.
Well, the worst case scenario has arrived. The only difference is that he won 2 Masters and made 1 final, but he also won Barcelona.
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Re: Federer vs Nadal ranking points (First post always updated)

Thanks BlueSwan, please keep us all posted as things develop during and after grass. HOPP ROGE!!!!
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Re: Federer vs Nadal ranking points (First post always updated)

Thank you for undating, BlueSwan.

Thankfully as Roger managed to win Hamburg and reach to the finals of MC and RG during clay season, he put himself in a better position to save his ranking. Otherwise, it would be a very very difficult task for him to catch up Nadal for the rest of the season. So I think this situation is not the worst. IMO, performing well at Wimbledon and USO will be a key. Also he should avoid to exit early in big tournaments(ala IW and Miami ).
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Re: Federer vs Nadal ranking points (First post always updated)

I still believe that it will be virtually impossible for Nadal to ever go above 6500 points, meaning that if Roger can stay above that he'll remain #1.
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Re: Federer vs Nadal ranking points (First post always updated)

If Roger manages to hold on to number one this year, I have little doubt he can do that for one year more - he would have so little to defend in IW and Miami next year...
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