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I've earned some more respect for Viola this season, he's fighting more and finds way to win matches that, on paper, he should lose comfortably. He's weaponless though, no denying in that, which makes (even more) Beck's returning numbers look worse.

Quick question Filo, I'm wondering now why you seem to be very supportive of fair play but have these totally opposite feelings towards Odesnik and Beck. You're constantly calling Odesnik a cheater and, imo, that's understandable because of his particular case but Beck actually tested positive for a banned substance that has been used by many athletes who were firmly sanctioned. Now, I'm well aware of it's differences with gh but, still, doesn't seem too coherent.
That's just about right. Viola style isn't impressive, but is effective. I've always thought of him as a pure claycourter, but his quick swinging helps him even at this super-fast surface.

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Quick question Filo, I'm wondering now why you seem to be very supportive of fair play but have these totally opposite feelings towards Odesnik and Beck. You're constantly calling Odesnik a cheater and, imo, that's understandable because of his particular case but Beck actually tested positive for a banned substance that has been used by many athletes who were firmly sanctioned. Now, I'm well aware of it's differences with gh but, still, doesn't seem too coherent.
note how Filo avoided answering this question
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Karol didn't knowingly cheat and Oratnik did. Plus Oratnik also ratted on Daniel Koellerer and other players regarding match fixing and substance abuse, to get a lesser sentence.
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Karol didn't knowingly cheat and Oratnik did. Plus Oratnik also ratted on Daniel Koellerer and other players regarding match fixing and substance abuse, to get a lesser sentence.
wasn't my intention to troll or bother you with the question at all, i was actually wondering if you thought Beck was innocent or if you were still supporting him regardless because of how you like him as a player/play style.
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Karol didn't knowingly cheat and Oratnik did. Plus Oratnik also ratted on Daniel Koellerer and other players regarding match fixing and substance abuse, to get a lesser sentence.
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wasn't my intention to troll or bother you with the question at all, i was actually wondering if you thought Beck was innocent or if you were still supporting him regardless because of how you like him as a player/play style.
It's all good friend

I like Karol because of his game. He's innocent of not intentionally doing drugs. He made a stupid error taking a pill for his back to play the DC final. But he isn't a drug smuggler, which is what Oratnik did. But if Karol did intentionally cheat, I would not support him.
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Benji Becker - I hope you win.
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Hope ERV keeps winning, it seemed that he was going for top-50 midways through the season, but look at him now.

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Becker defetas Viola 7-5 7-5 and makes it to the Final!
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seppi from 3-0 to 3-3
he didnt lose a point in the first two games, lol

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Singles Final: (1)Andreas Seppi (ITA) vs (2)Benjamin Becker (GER)

Doubles Final: (3)Junaid/Kohlmann (AUS/GER) vs Beck/De Voest (SVK/RSA)
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Benjamin Becker def. Andreas Seppi 6-1 6-4

Very poor perfomance, Andi
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Seppi's performance made me sick. You can't play like this in a final on your home ground. You just can't. I hope he gets fined for lack of effort
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Seppi's performance made me sick. You can't play like this in a final on your home crowd. You just can't. I hope he gets fined for lack of effort
He won't be getting fined. Becker actually played well and Seppi did his job this week with the wildcard which was excellent for the tournament. The crowds were good for his matches.

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Seppi's performance made me sick. You can't play like this in a final on your home ground. You just can't. I hope he gets fined for lack of effort
Did you pile in on him at 1.33 or something?

This is a complete overreaction. Yes, he didn't play at all well, but that's the nature of sports, no matter how hard one tries, there are always going to be bad days.

As AJ says, he did his job for the tournament. If you are going to talk about lack of effort, o it about someone else, because it would have been easy for Seppi to be sitting on a beach in Mauritius right now. Instead, he extends his season by two weeks, because he is committed to helping a local tournament of his. That's plenty of effort.
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