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View Poll Results: Do You Believe In A "God"?
Yes, I'm a Theist (Believe in holy revelation via a "Holy Book") 58 19.14%
Yes, I'm a Deist (Believe in God based upon the existence of the Universe and evolved life) 41 13.53%
Perhaps, I'm Agnostic (As there is conflicting, or a lack of, evidence you just don't know) 77 25.41%
No, I'm an Atheist (science will eventually understand the origins of the Big Bang/Universe) 127 41.91%
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There's no god.
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Ofc it can't, it doesn't exist.


Depends on your definitions. Let's say tomorrow we discover the tooth fairy, we study it and we are able to scientifically explain how this being works. Is it still a tooth fairy, or something else?

My point is, God, like the tooth fairy, is the personification of magic, but there is no magic, everything has logic.

Let's assume God exists and created what we call Universe. When science finally finds this being and explains how he did it, is it still God, or is he just a very knowledgeable and technologically advanced being/civilization?

If the definition of God is the personification of something that can't be explained, then what created our Universe is no longer God (reductio ad absurdum).

Therefore anything that exists doesn't fall under the definition of God and therefore God doesn't exist.

All the fuss about the God's existence throughtout millennia is quite ironic, because the word/concept "God" is the ultimate definition of non-existence.
Then there's the possibility that our philosophical attempts to explain the infinite and eternal are inadequate. It fascinates me that some of the most brilliant scientific minds we have ever known fall into both camps (intelligent design vs chance). As a grossly ill-equipped layman, the fact that this debate is still ongoing in that community says a lot. Nothing worse than undergrads equipped with science degrees who are certain that atoms/quarks are the sum total of our constitution. As an educator, I believe that there is room for discussing both possibilities and that no questions should be excluded.

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I don't think men&women are equal


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Then there's the possibility that our philosophical attempts to explain the infinite and eternal are inadequate. It fascinates me that some of the most brilliant scientific minds we have ever known fall into both camps (intelligent design vs chance). As a grossly ill-equipped layman, the fact that this debate is still ongoing in that community says a lot. Nothing worse than undergrads equipped with science degrees who are certain that atoms/quarks are the sum total of our constitution. As an educator, I believe that there is room for discussing both possibilities and that no questions should be excluded.
Are you implying that evolution is a process of chance?

I agree that the beginning of the universe is an interesting question and some good (however not convincing for me) philosophical points can be raised in favor of theism there.

Evolution vs. ID is not an interesting debate however. That battle has been won by evolution decades ago.

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Let's assume God exists and created what we call Universe. When science finally finds this being and explains how he did it, is it still God, or is he just a very knowledgeable and technologically advanced being/civilization?
Yup, that's the interesting part. I don't think those are mutually exclusive. Religions by all means claim God is very knowledgeable (and therefore obviously more advanced as well); Spanish conquistadors were considered "gods" when they visited Americas for the first time etc. Anyway, if someone can create a universe, he would definitely have enough credentials to be God or CEO or whatever in that universe

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Evolution vs. ID is not an interesting debate however. That battle has been won by evolution decades ago.
I think the sides are wrongly set there. I think it shouldn't be evolution vs. ID, more like whether evolution = ID

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I'm Agnostic. To be a religious person you have to believe and then you'll see, but I want to see and then believe... as this is hardly possible, I'm not religious, but I'm not atheist too, because there aren't any proofs that God does not exist (as the aren't any proofs that shows that God exists).

It is something about how much do you want to believe. Maybe when I will get older I will believe more and more, because I will see how the life goes on and maybe I will realize that there is something more in this world than what we apparently see.

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There is a quote that I really like: Anselm of Canterbury defined God as "that than which nothing greater can be conceived".

So as a philosophy lover I believe in this idea: God is a way to name what we can't see, what we can't justify, what we can't reach... God is the metaphysical idea about human limitations.

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So I'm still an atheist and don't see any reason to believe in a God.

What's the most convincing argument for a higher power these days? Cosmological argument? Fine tuning?

The closest thing to a deity that I worship would be the Sun, because at least there is proof it exists and without it there is no human life as we know it.

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The closest thing to a deity that I worship would be the Sun, because at least there is proof it exists and without it there is no human life as we know it.
"I worship the sun, but I don't pray to the sun, I pray to Joe Pesci, cause he looks like a guy who can get things done."
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Yes. Here's a short documentary that covers the history and practice of my religion:

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I do not follow any Religion.

But,i do believe there is a "God".

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