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5/5- Almost 100% spot on, Mr. Groove. I may switch a few around here or there, but good work 68 18.43%
4/5- More or less. I disagree with a few, but not bad at all 154 41.73%
3/5- Hmmmm, I dunno. Some look a bit dicey, mate 53 14.36%
2/5- Are you nuts? Why is X player in Y position? You are completely dissing Z player! 19 5.15%
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post #1126 of 1787 (permalink) Old 10-11-2012, 05:08 PM
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I'm guessing advancement for Pancho
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Re: Professor Johnny Groove's Top 55 players ever (All slam champs and #1's, post #11

Will Nadal be #7 if he wins his 12th Slam?


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Preliminary New Top 25:

1. Pancho Gonzales, 364 weeks and 20.66 slams
2. Rod Laver, 277 weeks and 19.195 slams
3. Roger Federer, 300 weeks and 17 slams
4. Bill Tilden, 330 weeks and 14.143 slams
5. Ken Rosewall, 242 weeks and 20.2 slams
6. Pete Sampras, 286 weeks and 14 slams
7. Don Budge, 303 weeks and 10.5 slams
8. William Renshaw, 286 weeks and 11.165 slams
9. Laurie Doherty, 252 weeks and 7.665 slams
10. Jack Kramer, 234 weeks and 8.195 slams
11. Ivan Lendl, 234 weeks and 8 slams
12. Ellsworth Vines, 191 weeks and 10.035 slams
13. William Larned- 199 weeks and 8 slams
14. Bjorn Borg, 150 weeks and 11 slams
15. Joshua Pim, 173 weeks 9 slams
16. Jimmy Connors, 182 weeks and 8 slams
17. John McEnroe, 170 weeks and 8 slams
18. Bobby Riggs, 156 weeks and 8.98 slams
19. Henri Cochet, 147 weeks and 8.145 slams
20. Rafael Nadal, 102 weeks and 11 slams
21. Tony Wilding, 130 weeks and 8.665 slams
22. Fred Perry, 121 weeks and 8.7 slams
23. Reggie Doherty, 139 weeks and 7 slams
24. Wilfred Baddeley, 122 weeks and 8 slams
25. Andre Agassi, 101 weeks and 8 slams

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Lendl had 270 weeks didn't he?

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Lendl had 270 weeks didn't he?
Unjustly in parts of 89 and 90. I have rectified this, giving some weeks from Lendl to Becker and Edberg, as I also did taking some from Connors and giving to Borg, Ashe, and Vilas.

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If he wins his 12th, yes, he wll be the #7 all time in terms of Slam Victories.
I think he should surpass Sampras overall. Or at least when he gets 13.


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3. Rod Laver- 23(15.39)= 19.195 slams

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Unjustly in parts of 89 and 90. I have rectified this, giving some weeks from Lendl to Becker and Edberg, as I also did taking some from Connors and giving to Borg, Ashe, and Vilas.
How did you 'rectify' it though? By using the modern day ranking system?

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How did you 'rectify' it though? By using the modern day ranking system?
And go week by week? Even I hardly have such time. With Connors, he at least split with Ashe in '75, so I gave Ashe 27 weeks, one week over half. I gave 14 to Vilas, one week more than 1/4 of the season in '77.

For Lendl, his numbers from 89 and 90 are a bit screwy. Becker was the true year end in 89, and I awarded him an extra 20 weeks, and for Edberg, I gave him 13 from Lendl, another 1/4 of the season. Have you an alternate method?

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What the hell is this nonsense?
For Gonzales, he won 27 slams in his career. Well this is a bit ridiculous. The number in parenthesis is Johnny Groove Adjusted Slams. I averaged the 2, which is where I got 20+ for Pancho.

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He will be added to the full list, which will stretch beyond 150. Murray will be just outside the top 100.

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For Gonzales, he won 27 slams in his career. Well this is a bit ridiculous. The number in parenthesis is Johnny Groove Adjusted Slams. I averaged the 2, which is where I got 20+ for Pancho.
Apart from the week count which is obviously an approximation, how did you count Gonzalez 27 slams?

On wiki he has 14 (counting both slams and pro-slams). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennis_...singles_titles

If anything it's Rosewall who should be up at 23 (well I wouldn't count his 4 slams pre-open era since they were amateurs events, I would count the pro-slams instead, for a total of 19).

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