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good decision. MDS contributes nothing of value, delights in being mean and rambles. I'm not generally bothered enough by anyone to use of the ignore function, but I might do it too just to save myself the scrolling past those painfully long and boring posts.
go for it because in GM I rarely go off topic, this is 'Non Tennis' for a reason. In fact I don't recall having many discussions with you ever in the past so I don't see how it would make a difference if you do

plus you're full of it, I am not mean or negative all the time in fact I originally for example was somewhat supportive of Groove and a hugeeee fan but he is unhealthy and lies to people on this forum over and over and I hate liars

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go for it because in GM I rarely go off topic, this is 'Non Tennis' for a reason. In fact I don't recall having many discussions with you ever in the past so I don't see how it would make a difference if you do

plus you're full of it, I am not mean or negative all the time in fact I originally for example was somewhat supportive of Groove and a hugeeee fan but he is unhealthy and lies to people on this forum over and over and I hate liars
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As negative as MDS's comments are, they are necessary in this case. Groove's current ambitions are simply too high.

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Good to see MDs still up at 3 in the morning writing his bullshit. I wont bother reading them, probably his usual drivel.

Yesterday's serves practice. Very windy day. I am fiddling with my serve, this is more my old Fed-like motion with the platform stance.

[youtube]MKs3nIPoDe0[/youtube]

Improvements I see I need to make.

left foot move forward instead of back
more knee bend, more back bend, more body turn
As for toss, the height is fine, i am jumping, my arm is fully extended, but the toss is too far left. Needs to be more to the right.
Left arm/neck. The left arm needs to stay up longer after releasing the toss

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Good to see MDs still up at 3 in the morning writing his bullshit. I wont bother reading them, probably his usual drivel.

Yesterday's serves practice. Very windy day. I am fiddling with my serve, this is more my old Fed-like motion with the platform stance.

[youtube]MKs3nIPoDe0[/youtube]

Improvements I see I need to make.

left foot move forward instead of back
more knee bend, more back bend, more body turn
As for toss, the height is fine, i am jumping, my arm is fully extended, but the toss is too far left. Needs to be more to the right.
Left arm/neck. The left arm needs to stay up longer after releasing the toss

We getting there.
thing is that you're getting the maximum from this rather wrong movement. You serve quite strong with that and if you manage to change it in a correct way, having the shoulder power that it seems you do have, you could have a great one.

First major thing to start with and seriously - it is important - the ball toss!

The way you toss the ball makes your whole movement follow up wrongly and perhaps by changing only that you could yield a huge positive change.

You throw the ball on the side, which is the reason you make this step with your left foot and spending the energy created by the twist of the body in vain.

Throw the ball straight up and slightly ahead (it should land one meter inside the court straight in front of you if you throw and don't hit it).
Have your weight on your toes, not the heels and the side of the foot, direct your movement ahead.

Just by tossing the ball right these should come by themselves.

At first the serve won't get inside the box, you'll probably hit many nets, but that's the way it should and then you'll slightly adjust your body movement toward the new toss.

Important points - 1. use the rotation of the body (when tossing be 90 degrees to the net, comletely side ways, then when the racquet starts toward the ball - rotate).
2. Drop the back shoulder low, lower than the tossing shoulder. It makes you gain momentum and height when reaching for the ball.


Start from there and if you practice enough you should feel the improvement quite fast.

But start with the toss, it's absolutely imperative.

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Wow, great stuff. Thanks for all the pointers, uncle latso. I'll work on it and get another video tonight.

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Really not sure how much longer I can keep chasing this. I've sacrificed so much for so long for this to happen with NOTHING to show for it.

How much longer can I go? Today on the court I had no zeal, no zest, nothing. Mentally I still want it, the passion is still there, but my body resists. My body doesn't want to do it. My heart says keep going, my body asks why. My brain is realistic and draws a compromise. 2 more months, until after graduation, three futures, and some more. If I still feel the same now in two months, its time to find something else to do.

No, I am not retired yet, but the day sombrero loco opens a thread in GM announcing my retirement draws ever closer.

How much more? Do I want to keep sacrificing? Or do I want to get my life going for real? Grad school, real job, own apartment, etc. How much longer can I chase this dream? Passion doesn't pay the bills. Love doesn't pay the rent.

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I mean, this is all fine and good in theory. But 99.9% of the kids who do this schedule are burnt out by 17. Trust me. I know them, I've seen them, I am one of them. Besides, this only allows for 7 hours of sleep.

My schedule, back when I was doing Dominos, my schedule was:

10 AM- wake up, shower, eat, stretch, get ready to play
12 PM- 2:30 PM- On court work
2:30-3, stretch, drink fluids, drive to gym
3-4:30 Lift
5:00 PM to 2 AM- Dominos

And this is not even with school. There are simply not enough hours in the day. You get very easily burnt out with such a schedule, and I did. it is impossible to work a job and train full time, let alone do school as well. Either I can do school and tennis, I can do work and school, or I can do tennis and some other job like a coaching job where i can also train, which is where I am trying to go. This is all assuming 24 hours in a day. The only way to do all 3 is to reduce your sleep, which will negatively impact all 3.
in my opinion it's more important how parents, coaches and other relatives cope with these goals, with wins and especially with losses! if they are "the typical tennis family", you will be right. if not it can work!

but tell me: what happened between finishing with this schedule and doing what you're doing now?
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Really not sure how much longer I can keep chasing this. I've sacrificed so much for so long for this to happen with NOTHING to show for it.

How much longer can I go? Today on the court I had no zeal, no zest, nothing. Mentally I still want it, the passion is still there, but my body resists. My body doesn't want to do it. My heart says keep going, my body asks why. My brain is realistic and draws a compromise. 2 more months, until after graduation, three futures, and some more. If I still feel the same now in two months, its time to find something else to do.

No, I am not retired yet, but the day sombrero loco opens a thread in GM announcing my retirement draws ever closer.

How much more? Do I want to keep sacrificing? Or do I want to get my life going for real? Grad school, real job, own apartment, etc. How much longer can I chase this dream? Passion doesn't pay the bills. Love doesn't pay the rent.
I feel your pain. Hang in there. Even if you move on to something else, at least you'd know that you gave this your all. Not everyone has the courage to go after his/her dream with the same ferocity as you. That counts for something.

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in my opinion it's more important how parents, coaches and other relatives cope with these goals, with wins and especially with losses! if they are "the typical tennis family", you will be right. if not it can work!

but tell me: what happened between finishing with this schedule and doing what you're doing now?
Yes, the family is very, very important to the success of the player.

What happened when I was doing Dominos was that I would end up working late on Friday night, and have to play early the next morning. Usually 8 am. So I would go on court with like 3-4 hours sleep, and be literally falling asleep on return on the court. I was slapping myself to wake up.

You cannot be in prime condition to perform at 8 am when you are still delivering pizzas mere hours before. I gotta get the coaching job, where i can work and train during the week and do tourneys on the weekend. I gotta get to that point, I gotta score a couple of big wins in some Men's Opens, some big scalps on my resume, and then I can get that job.

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I feel your pain. Hang in there. Even if you move on to something else, at least you'd know that you gave this your all. Not everyone has the courage to go after his/her dream with the same ferocity as you. That counts for something.


Hmm, perhaps. It's just tough you know? When you give your all for something for so many years, giving up everything, I mean damn.

But they say you are closest when you feel this way. They say the night is always darkest before the dawn...

Maybe I am here:

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That would be a more accurate way of putting it.


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thing is that you're getting the maximum from this rather wrong movement. You serve quite strong with that and if you manage to change it in a correct way, having the shoulder power that it seems you do have, you could have a great one.

First major thing to start with and seriously - it is important - the ball toss!

The way you toss the ball makes your whole movement follow up wrongly and perhaps by changing only that you could yield a huge positive change.

You throw the ball on the side, which is the reason you make this step with your left foot and spending the energy created by the twist of the body in vain.

Throw the ball straight up and slightly ahead (it should land one meter inside the court straight in front of you if you throw and don't hit it).
Have your weight on your toes, not the heels and the side of the foot, direct your movement ahead.

Just by tossing the ball right these should come by themselves.

At first the serve won't get inside the box, you'll probably hit many nets, but that's the way it should and then you'll slightly adjust your body movement toward the new toss.

Important points - 1. use the rotation of the body (when tossing be 90 degrees to the net, comletely side ways, then when the racquet starts toward the ball - rotate).
2. Drop the back shoulder low, lower than the tossing shoulder. It makes you gain momentum and height when reaching for the ball.


Start from there and if you practice enough you should feel the improvement quite fast.

But start with the toss, it's absolutely imperative.

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Over-the-internet teaching doesn't get much better than this. The thing is, latso doesn't really have the physical capability now to do exactly what he told you, so I'm not sure I would trust him.
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Over-the-internet teaching doesn't get much better than this. The thing is, latso doesn't really have the physical capability now to do exactly what he told you, so I'm not sure I would trust him.
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Your ball toss is ridiculously bad and it's affecting your entire service motion. You're supposed to place the ball straight up in the air not half a metre to your left. You're striking the ball before it even reaches the apex of your toss which is absurd. Toss it up higher and let the ball drop to the point where you're outstretched arm is at its highest level. Amazing you've been playing this long and still serving like this.

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