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News & Articles Part 3 - The Return of the Yeti

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Re: Marat news and articles

While I don't think he's suicidal or has gone completely mad, I still think this whole thing is irresponsible :shrug: I'm sure they wouldn't have taken him if they didn't think he could hack it, but 8200 m is 8200 m. He will experience severe cold, diarrhoea, possible dehydration, frozen limbs (not anything serious hopefully, but still), the effects of altitude, exhaustion. That sort of thing takes a serious toll on the body, it's not 40 days of leisure fishing in fucking Yosemite Park.

Ugh. If you need to find yourself spiritually, go visit some damn monasteries or something, don't put your body through all that. *shakes head* But who knows, maybe that's what he wants, to push himself physically :shrug: :smash:

Just... come back in one piece, Oaf. I hope you haven't dug yourself too deep this time.
 
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Re: Marat news and articles

While I don't think he's suicidal or has gone completely mad, I still think this whole thing is irresponsible :shrug: I'm sure they wouldn't have taken him if they didn't think he could hack it, but 8200 m is 8200 m. He will experience severe cold, diarrhoea, possible dehydration, frozen limbs (not anything serious hopefully, but still), the effects of altitude, exhaustion. That sort of thing takes a serious toll on the body, it's not 40 days of leisure fishing in fucking Yosemite Park.

Ugh. If you need to find yourself spiritually, go visit some damn monasteries or something, don't put your body through all that. *shakes head* But who knows, maybe that's what he wants, to push himself physically :shrug: :smash:

Just... come back in one piece, Oaf. I hope you haven't dug yourself too deep this time.
Yeah, I absolutely agree. I mean "wanting" to go and going without preparation are two different things, I also wondered about the other team members. I'm a little worried the PR and the fame factor might be an influence. But when you're in the wall when will the "experienced" climbers start to talk about "Why did we have to bring him? He can't even properly jumar, pommel, snitchel, abseil, upseil or middletwiddle!" (improvised mountaineering vocabulary).
 
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Re: Marat news and articles

This is what people are missing IMO...They are somehow equalizing this with someone withdrawing from society and contemplating life. Look, I am sure we all at some point in our lives could see the ridiculousness of a successful, good-looking, popular, multi-millionaire athlete's urgent need of evaluating his life every few years (really, what the fuck is there to think about?)..And I get that after being a fan of Marat for x amount of years maybe we don't see such obvious things as easily. That's beside the point...Why are people failing to see how dangerous and ultimately senseless all this is?
What amazes me about this forum, which is supposedly frequented by people who claim to have 'supported' or been a 'fan' or 'follower' or whatever you want to call yourseleves, of Marat for 'X' amount of years show so LITTLE FAITH in him and his ability as a person to make whatever life choices he sees fit. I am not only referring to THIS quote, by the way, and I really can't be bothered trawling through all the dross for further examples, but there have been too many.

So, where do YOU, or anyone else on this forum get the right to pour so much judgemental scorn on someone you imagine you admire and respect..oh, sorry - admiration and respect are in pretty poor supply in my opinion based on observing this forum for only a few short months.

Marat Safin is an adult who is perfectly capable of making his own decisions about what he can or cannot do; He has taken on a task which PLENTY of other people have done and will continue to do. YES there is an elemant of risk - but crossing the road is risky - and do you know that most accidents happen in the home? He is on a professional tour run and supplied by professionals - he obviously has been planning this for months - he's not just thrown a backpack on and taken off into the hills. I fully respect and admire Marat in his choice - he WILL have a fantastic experience and whatever motivated him to go, I beleive he will ultimately benefit from the experience - "ultimately senseless"? to YOU, maybe - not to Marat.

As far as 'what has Marat to think about' - do you REALLY believe he is as one-dimensional as that?? if you think that what you observe of Marat tells anything like the whole story....LOL!

As for his career - it's his LIFE - he has dedicated himself to his career since he was sent off at 14 - if he wants to quit and do something completely different - ????? who says he can't or shouldn't - really, people, get a grip !! Marat is a human being not your own personal entertainment system - and I'm so glad that he is doing what he's doing because HE WANTS TO.
 
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Re: Marat news and articles

As for his career - it's his LIFE - he has dedicated himself to his career since he was sent off at 14 - if he wants to quit and do something completely different - ????? who says he can't or shouldn't - really, people, get a grip !! Marat is a human being not your own personal entertainment system - and I'm so glad that he is doing what he's doing because HE WANTS TO.
I agree.
:shrug:
 
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Re: Marat news and articles

As someone with a lifelong experience with mountains I can tell everybody that 40 days in Himalay this is not about "finding you own self" and "pushing yourself physically". If you want to do that go on a three day river rafting trip. And men in their mid-twenties have always been known to make very wise choices (as men in general) and not to go get shot in wars, drink to braindeath and so forth...
 
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Re: Marat news and articles

I don't know if you guys are aware of it but there is a climbing season, just like there is a tennis season - the best time to go hiking in Nepal and Tibet is mid-September to late October since the weather is the most predictable in this period (not that that means very much...). So unless you want him to get stuck on a frigging mountain, give him credit for sensible planning at least.:rolleyes:

I think the whole climbing business is really cool - completely, utterly, totally unprofessional tennis-wise but really cool nevertheless. I hope he has a blast, extends his personal limits, finds some inner Zen and showers before he steps back into civilization :cool:
Agreed

davai lama
:spit: the Satinette in me really likes that one :rolls:

probably. the mountain climbing boots are pretty tough, rigid stuff though, so it might give some support as well. please correct me if I'm wrong.
yes

It was just a joke. Doesn't have to be factual. :shrug: Lots of humour on this forum are not based on all facts anyway.

Well, I know that in reality climbing up Cho Oyu is no joke. But if I were Marat, I'd have done the same thing. Why not? Ok, it's not professional tennis-wise like many have said. But instead of just toiling meaninglessly on the mundane tennis courts for another two months (I think everybody agrees here that he's not going to win every single match and sweep all the titles this fall anyway), Marat is doing something that will contribute to his lifetime experience. Dangerous yes. And it might affect his physique as a tennis player afterwards. But Marat is a person before he's a tennis player. So... :shrug: I'm happy for him. And this proves to me that Marat is almost by nature a somewhat Byronic figure I always thought he is.
Agreed

Because if he dies, he is SO into the HOF :D
:lol: I mean :eek:

I really hope he's gonna stay at the camp at the foot of the mountain and not climb the mountain because he's never done such a thing. In such expeditions rarely do all the members of the group climb the mountain so I hope he has some brain left and decides to stay at the camp to guard the luggage and keep in touch with the civilization
Yeah, he canceled almost 3 months of tournaments to stay down there while the rest of the group go through an experience they'll never forget.

I like this one better http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/sawyer

( :secret: steph, is it you singing? "I lived in a cave" :p)
:cool:
 
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Re: Marat news and articles

:lol: I mean :eek:

Yeah, he canceled almost 3 months of tournaments to stay down there while the rest of the group go through an experience they'll never forget.
Why don't you inform yourself? It is very uncommon for all group members to make it to the actual summit. sometimes none of the members makes it to the summit. it's called a successful expedition if one single member makes it up there. again, i think many people here have no understanding of the alpine sport, that's ok, but don't ridicule people when they are right about that sport. it's as if somebody said "professional tennis players always get their first serve in"
 
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Re: Marat news and articles

That's quite the spirited essay there inez...
That's an interesting perspective. So we as fans owe Marat unconditional support and admiration and he doesn't owe us anything? Oooooooook. :yeah:
There are different levels of fandom. I haven't reached the delusional-will-support-any-insane-enterprise-he-undertakes level yet, but I'll let you know when I get there :).
Bottom line is, he's a public figure. He's obligated to his sponsors, his sport, his fans, to at least show up to the things he has committed to. If he doesn't like it, that's TOUGH SHIT because he wouldn't be the multi-millionaire he is today without that sport. :shrug: Doing this is irresponsible and me being a fan in no way bars me from saying this. I'm not denying him his right to make the decisions he wants to make, but just because he has the right to make them doesn't mean I can't point out how ridiculous they are in MY opinion:shrug:.
And yes yes, I've heard ALL about his multi-dimensionality...Somewhere deep inside him there lies a dead poet that he needs to get in touch with every few years :worship:...I wish I could buy into this :bs: every time, but to me it's over-romanticizing and lazy reporting all in one wonderful package, and frankly I am tired of hearing about it :shrug:...

steph, if I wanna whine, I'll whine all I want :ras:. I can't do this anywhere else :sobbing::lol:.
 
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Re: Marat news and articles

That's quite the spirited essay there inez...
That's an interesting perspective. So we as fans owe Marat unconditional support and admiration and he doesn't owe us anything? Oooooooook. :yeah:
There are different levels of fandom. I haven't reached the delusional-will-support-any-insane-enterprise-he-undertakes level yet, but I'll let you know when I get there :).
Bottom line is, he's a public figure. He's obligated to his sponsors, his sport, his fans, to at least show up to the things he has committed to. If he doesn't like it, that's TOUGH SHIT because he wouldn't be the multi-millionaire he is today without that sport. :shrug: Doing this is irresponsible and me being a fan in no way bars me from saying this. I'm not denying him his right to make the decisions he wants to make, but just because he has the right to make them doesn't mean I can't point out how ridiculous they are in MY opinion:shrug:.
And yes yes, I've heard ALL about his multi-dimensionality...Somewhere deep inside him there lies a dead poet that he needs to get in touch with every few years :worship:...I wish I could buy into this :bs: every time, but to me it's over-romanticizing and lazy reporting all in one wonderful package, and frankly I am tired of hearing about it :shrug:...

steph, if I wanna whine, I'll whine all I want :ras:. I can't do this anywhere else :sobbing::lol:.
:worship:
 
#41 ·
Re: News and articles - Satin au Tibet

Was this even leisure though. I thought it was a journey of self-discovery! ;)


okok...I'll take vassiej's lead and shut up too :)
I don't think he has to answer about his self-discovery or whatever you call it to his fans... he has to answer more like to himself (and his family & closest friends ;))
Vass & Penguin! :hug: I better shut up now too. :) :wavey:
 
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Re: News and articles - Satin au Tibet

MUSHY! midautumn fest! NEXT TUESDAY! :p

marat won't be able to look upon the midautumn moon from the mountaintop :awww:
:lol: ... send me that story, lah
 
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Re: News and articles - Bye Bye Master Yeti

not earth shattering, but ... from 7 summits site ... (thanks to an online translator :p)

MARAT SAFIN goes ON CUP DAVIS.... Having made 2 successful ascentions in the Himalayas, Marat Safin has accepted not easy, but the correct decision to return to Moscow and to support a combined team of Russia on Cup Davis.

"It was surprising travel to Tibet. I have perfectly had a rest, was restored, has gained strength also confidence and is ready to new victories over court" - have told Marat saying goodbye with a command of climbers "7 Summits Club" which tomorrow is going to make transition in the Advanced Base camp on height 5700m.
 
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Re: News and articles - Bye Bye Master Yeti

je vais essayer de faire le pont :scratch: :shrug:
ok

not earth shattering, but ... from 7 summits site ... (thanks to an online translator :p)

MARAT SAFIN goes ON CUP DAVIS.... Having made 2 successful ascentions in the Himalayas, Marat Safin has accepted not easy, but the correct decision to return to Moscow and to support a combined team of Russia on Cup Davis.

"It was surprising travel to Tibet. I have perfectly had a rest, was restored, has gained strength also confidence and is ready to new victories over court" - have told Marat saying goodbye with a command of climbers "7 Summits Club" which tomorrow is going to make transition in the Advanced Base camp on height 5700m.
so fast? :eek: :unsure:




:singer:
Il descend de la montagne à cheval, il descend de la montagne à cheval,
Il descend de la montagne, il descend de la montagne,
Il descend de la montagne à cheval,
Youpi ya ya youpi youpi ya, youpi ya ya youpi youpi ya,
Youpi ya ya youpi, ya ya youpi,
Ya ya youpi youpi ya :dance: :crazy:
 
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Re: News and articles - Bye Bye Master Yeti

rumour has it (mysterious twinkle) that he did not want to leave but that the group decided it was better if he left...
it's just the birds whispering. more to be known soon... ;)
He made them listen to Céline Dion? :unsure:
 
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