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Johannesburg - South African Open 1969 to 1971

Hello,

I think the South African Open in the early years of the Open Era is now considered by some as a TMS equivalent though, as far as I know, it's not listed on the ATP website (only from 1972 on).

I would like to know the names of the semi finalist beaten by Tom Okker in 1969, of the players beaten in the semis in 1970 & 1971 and the winners of the doubles tournaments in these three years, if there were any (but I don't see why there shouldn't be).

Thanks in advance.

1969
SF Rod LAVER defeated Cliff DRYSDALE 6-1 1-6 6-1 6-2 (see the Laver 1969 results thread)
F Rod LAVER defeated Tom OKKER 6-3 10-8 6-3

1970
F Rod LAVER defeated Frew McMILLAN 4-6 6-2 6-1 6-2

1971
F Ken ROSEWALL defeated Fred STOLLE 6-4 6-0 6-4

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Re: Johannesburg - South African Open 1969 to 1971

In which month this tournament was held?

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Re: Johannesburg - South African Open 1969 to 1971

April 1-12 1969
March 30 - April 3 1970 (only 5 days, weird)
April 5-17 1971


I called it the South African Open but it might also have been called South African Championship.
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Re: Johannesburg - South African Open 1969 to 1971

1969:
Okker def. Roche w/o (Roche had injured shoulder)

Doubles final: Gonzales/Moore def. Hewitt/McMillan 6-3 4-6 6-3 6-1

1970:
Laver def. Hewitt 6-4 8-6 6-1
McMillan def. Gonzales 1-6 6-4 6-1 6-8 6-3

Doubles final: Hewitt/McMillan def. Drysdale/Taylor 6-3 6-3 6-2

1971:
Rosewall def. Gimeno 6-1 6-3 6-1
Stolle def. Moore 5-7 5-7 6-3 6-4 6-4

Doubles final: Rosewall/Stolle def. Hewitt/McMillan 5-7 6-2 6-1 6-2


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Re: Johannesburg - South African Open 1969 to 1971

Many thanks, Voo. That's priceless.

That should really have been an important tournament as singles semis and doubles finals were all best of five.
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Hello,

I think the South African Open in the early years of the Open Era is now considered by some as a TMS equivalent though, as far as I know, it's not listed on the ATP website (only from 1972 on).

I would like to know the names of the semi finalist beaten by Tom Okker in 1969, of the players beaten in the semis in 1970 & 1971 and the winners of the doubles tournaments in these three years, if there were any (but I don't see why there shouldn't be).

Thanks in advance.

1969
SF Rod LAVER defeated Cliff DRYSDALE 6-1 1-6 6-1 6-2 (see the Laver 1969 results thread)
F Rod LAVER defeated Tom OKKER 6-3 10-8 6-3

1970
F Rod LAVER defeated Frew McMILLAN 4-6 6-2 6-1 6-2

1971
F Ken ROSEWALL defeated Fred STOLLE 6-4 6-0 6-4
O.K. i have earlier results in the 1969 Joburg tournament
Rd of 16 Cliff Richey def Roy Emerson 6-2 6-4 3-6 6-3
" Pancho Gonzalez def Fred Stolle2-6 6-3 6-4 12-14 11-9
" Ray Moore def Dennis Ralston 6-2 4-6 8-6 6-1
" Rod Laver def Frew McMillan 6-2 6-4 6-2
" Okker def Richard Crealy 7-5 9-7 6-0
" Bob Hewitt def Andres Gimeno 6-3 6-4 6-2
do not have the scores or opponents for C Drysdale and Tony Roche who also advanced.

QF Tom Okker def Cliff Richey3-6 6-3 6-4 8-6
" C Drysdale def P Gonzalez 3-6 3-6 10-8 6-4 7-5
" R Laver def Bob Hewitt 6-1 6-4 6-1
" T Roche def Ray Moore 6-3 11-9 6-3

Thes results are from the scrapbook of Cliff Richey
Sister Nancy Richey lost in the final to BJK in three sets
A behind the scenes tidbit...Cliff and i both picked up the Flu in New York the week before and played the tournament with the Flu but i will tell you that neither of us used that as an excuse..we both would have lost to the players we lost to anyway...it is however disgusting to see players today who default because of a "headache"!
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Re: Johannesburg - South African Open 1969 to 1971

Thank you, I hadn't found out some of these results. It should have been very painful to make the whole journey to South Africa with the flu and then play. Hats off !

I just found out that Tony Roche defeated Bob Carmichael 7/5 6/3 7/5 in the round of 16. Still don't know about Drysdale's match.


I'm very impressed by that draw.
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Thank you, I hadn't found out some of these results. It should have been very painful to make the whole journey to South Africa with the flu and then play. Hats off !

I just found out that Tony Roche defeated Bob Carmichael 7/5 6/3 7/5 in the round of 16. Still don't know about Drysdale's match.


I'm very impressed by that draw.
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