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Ranking points might be given out for Davis Cup play

I didn't see this posted and the GM search function isn't working for me so if it was posted already, I apologize

Anyway, interesting idea. Not sure how I feel yet. I like the idea of the guys who play wanting to play because of the love of Davis Cup. But it might get some of the top players to play more.

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Ranking points may be given in Davis Cup
Neil Harman, Tennis Correspondent in Miami, Florida

It will come too late to help Tim Henman’s cause but the prospect of ranking points being awarded for participation in the Davis Cup is the most profound change being considered to enhance the championship and sustain the support of the world’s leading players.

Henman’s reacquaintance with the competition from which he retired two years ago will be confirmed when he joins the Great Britain squad — Andy Murray, Greg Rusedski, Jamie Murray, Jamie Baker and Richard Broomfield are the others — for the zonal tie against the Netherlands in Birmingham from April 6-8. And, to content British hearts, there were flashes during his first-round defeat by Guillermo Cañas, from Argentina, in the Sony Ericsson Open here when the clock had been rewound to Henman at his peak.

Just imagine to where Henman might have climbed had ranking points for the cup been part of the package. As negotiations continue between the ITF, which owns the Davis Cup, and the ATP over prospective dates for the 2009 event — players want ties staged the week immediately after grand-slam tournaments rather than a week later — the most intriguing factor would be the approval of points for results.

For once in tennis, here is a strategy from which everyone gains. By 2009, Henman may well have kicked off his court shoes — he may even be the captain — though there was an hour-long cameo deep into a breezy Thursday night when it seemed that the 32-year-old had been supping from the fountain of eternal youth. Unfortunately, the match lasted an hour and 52 minutes.

Such is life for Henman these days. A second first-round defeat in successive Masters events does not sit well. He says that he will be physically fine for his first best-of-five-set match since the second round of last year’s US Open, when he plays singles against the Netherlands. But how many more defeats — it is one win in four matches since his return after a four-month absence — will he swallow? “I’ve always had a good perspective,” he said after his 3-6, 6-2, 6-1 loss, “and now with a family, you’re able to shake it off and put it behind you. But. . .I’m putting in a lot of work and I want to see the results.”

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Terrible idea.
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The article seems to be more about Henman than about Davis Cup.
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Re: Ranking points might be given out for Davis Cup play

Is this for real? If it is, it's one of the stupidest ideas ever
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Very bad idea Totally unfair.
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Re: Ranking points might be given out for Davis Cup play

I'm not against the idea in theory but I struggle to see how it would work in practise without being grossly unfair to some players.
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It sounds like a bad idea. Maybe it will attract more top players, maybe it won't. But it's certainly gives an unfair advantage to players who come from strong tennis countries. Not much in it for guys like Baghdatis and Nieminen.
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That's not fair to the guys who don't play. What are they talking about that everyone gains. What about guys who play for countries that don't have many players and don't stay in the running long? This only helps the big countries who have a lot of players.

Everything decision lately is for the "top" players and the "big" countries.

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I don't see how it can work in principle since Davis Cup is a team competition and they are talking about awarding individual points. For example, it must be the case that wins at later stages of the competition are worth more than earlier wins in terms of points. However, the team advanced to the later stages through the joint efforts of its members. Awarding points to an individual discounts this joint effort aspect of the competition.

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Top players will have to play for their countries which would solve our current problem aka Federer.

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This would be great for Safin's rank.

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The article seems to be more about Henman than about Davis Cup.
It's the London Times what do you expect

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its a terrible idea.

you play if you want to, you shouldnt force them.

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what is davis cup and why should I care about it
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bad idea, plus is Marcos baghdatis or Niemenen's win in division 2 going to count the same as Gonzalez beating Safin in World Group? I dont think so but neither baghdatis nor niemenen have the fault of not having anyone else good on their team so they must play in Europe II...

And off course its unfair to lower ranked players who are left of their squads, while top players get the opportunity to get more points...

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