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Red face Report: Some players walked out of ATP meeting

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Nadal, Robredo Slam ATP Schedule Plans

KEY BISCAYNE -- Rafael Nadal is not happy. Neither is Tommy Robredo. Nor are about 60 players who earn a big part of their salary on clay courts and who signed a petition that Nadal and Robredo waved at ATP CEO Etienne de Villiers in an extremely noisy, extremely unpleasant meeting Tuesday night.

Things got so out of hand, according to one of my moles, that dozens of players walked out of this mandatory players meeting, which was called to go over a number of issues -- not the least of which was to explore plans to eliminate Monte Carlo as a Masters Series event in 2009 and reduce the prize money there from $2.1 million to about $500,000.

They're also not happy about plans to downgrade another Masters event in Hamburg.

Things became so contentious in the meeting that at one point Roger Federer got up from his seat at the front and moved to the back of the room because "it was quieter back there."

More than one source said that de Villiers was having trouble controlling the temperament of the meeting, which is unfortunate because what he's trying to do is the right path. If the ATP is to streamline its schedule by reducing one of the nine Masters Series events, Monte Carlo is it. It's a great site, with the courts overlooking the Mediterranean, but the revenues there are nothing to brag about.

Those clay courters who are demanding de Villiers instead eliminate one of the four North American hardcourt Masters Series events (Indian Wells, Key Biscayne, Cincinnati and Canada) are dreaming. All four of these events produce solid revenues.

Monte Carlo is a clay court event which has been won over the last several years by Nadal, Guillermo Coria, Juan Carlos Ferrero and Gustavo Kuerten. Hamburg, which is two weeks before the French Open, was won last year by Robredo. It's cold there in mid-May. It can be wet and the clay can be very heavy.

Nothing was settled at the meeting, but de Villiers got a major earful. That's something he didn't need a couple weeks after fumbling the round robin problem in Las Vegas. One thing is clear. There's a deep split among the players and de Villiers, who is a strong "people person," has to find a way to bring Robredo and Nadal and their supporters into some kind of compromise with those who either don't care about Monte Carlo and Hamburg or who make their money essentially on the hardcourts.

Another meeting like this could drive a very deep wedge not only between the players and the ATP management, but between players themselves.

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Re: Report: Some players walked out of ATP meeting

*sigh* no one can win this world, it truly is a pity.

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^^ A very interesting question indeed. I have some suspicions on it, but I won't be as stupid as to reveal them here right now...

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Gees, I have to say get rid of it. Something has to go, that's obvious people post constantly on here about changing and getting rid of, and no one is ever happy about any of it.

Some body has to let go, this time it's the clay courters, they have enough events, it's really not that big of a deal.
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Re: Report: Some players walked out of ATP meeting

Well, getting rid of Hamburg makes sense but not Monte Carlo.
Oh right, unless you're viewing the ATP schedule from a money making angle alone.
I doubt that Monte Carlo loses money actually. It's perhaps not the biggest cash cow either but it's not a money disaster, is it?

Reducing the Masters Series tournaments on clay from 3 to 1, nothing on grass at all and the rest on HC and carpet. Yep, very balanced.
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If the ATP is to streamline its schedule by reducing one of the nine Masters Series events, Monte Carlo is it. It's a great site, with the courts overlooking the Mediterranean, but the revenues there are nothing to brag about
The "non profit" A.T.P is back in the business of the bottomlines (not the bottom lines you are thinking about though)
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Reducing the Masters Series tournaments from 3 to 1, nothing on grass at all and the rest on HC and carpet. Yep, very balanced.
Matter of time before Halle is upgraded to a Masters, and sort of compensates for Hamburg. That would even out in more ways than one, since Germany would surely like to be host to one of the premier events.
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VAMOS to RAFA and TOMMY R!!!

Don't give in guys!!!!

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At this point, Halle as an MS event is just a fantasy on tennis message boards.

As the plans are now:
1 on clay
nothing on grass
The rest on HC and carpet.
--> That's not even close to being balanced.

None of the real scheduling issues are really dealt with.
Hamburg comes too close after Rome and is too soon before RG. So getting rid of it makes sense, I guess.
However, if you use that argument, than why keep Cincy and Paris for example? Because of the money?
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Re: Report: Some players walked out of ATP meeting

Were the ones who left the claycourters who are upset about the proposed changes or the other 'neutral' players who didn't feel like remaining in such a hostile environment?

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Sounds like Mr. Disney is getting everyone pissed off these days.
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Re: Report: Some players walked out of ATP meeting

I`d say downgrade Hamburg
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Then make China TMS a clay event
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So they keep 3-Clay TMS`s tourneys!
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Then they should downgrade Paris
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That makes 8-TMS, which is enough!!
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So let me get this straight, a top 6 player cant have his opinion but you can?
he can, but he is just bitching because they(moonballers) dotn want to lose a clay TMS, when their are clearly enough clay tournaments and when the sched needs to be trimmed down, he is a selfish crybaby just thinking about where he is going to get his points if clay torunaments are cut down...

I am sure the atp is going to cut the number of clay and hard court tourneys, also wanting to cut out 4 tournaments that all make money, bad idea, besides the courts have been slowed enough already so that they can stay 10 ft behind the baseline and bore us with their game, what else do they want...

Remember hard court is suppose to be the balanced surface, or they have tried to balance it with clay court and grass being the two "extremes", just because they cant play on hard court doesnt mean they have to have more clay tourneys... and like I said, AO, Miami, IW, all have high bouncing not so fast hardcourts...

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Re: Report: Some players walked out of ATP meeting

Id say a Clay AMS in South America, it only seems fitting, since thats what they are good at.

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Re: Report: Some players walked out of ATP meeting

Can some one tell me if there is an explination why are most of the tms on hard and clay.
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