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post #1 of 98 (permalink) Old 03-20-2007, 10:59 AM Thread Starter
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Has Nole had an easy ride to the top10?

Nole seems to of had some serious luck recently with his draws but generally has he been lucky with getting to the top10? Sure he probably deserves to be there soon but has he actually proven he should be there right now?

Murray has already proven he is top10 material by beating almost everyone there but Nole hasn't even played against Roddick, Davydenko or Blake and neither has he beaten Ljubicic.

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Re: Has Nole had an easy ride to the top10?

It's clown era remember?

Everyone gets an easy ride to the Top Ten. Hell, I could be Top Ten tomorrow if I wanted but I'd rather remain anonymous and not be called a clown.

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Re: Has Nole had an easy ride to the top10?

Seems someone is jealous that Djokovic got to the top 10 quicker than Murray did? Yes, Djokovic bought all the points at the discount supermarket and they were good enough to make the top 10.

So when did Murray beat Nadal?

Bring on the clown era.

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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Re: Has Nole had an easy ride to the top10?

One side of the argument you could say he has achieved it by taking his chances when opportunities arose such as indian wells, and qualifying for tournaments earlier in his career so he could get to where he has. But also if you look at most of his success' like the MM tournaments and Indian wells for example he never played any 'good' players, and when he does he usually loses e.g. Lost twice to Fed and Youzhny this year and Nadal in the IW finals.
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Seems someone is jealous that Djokovic got to the top 10 quicker than Murray did?
Yes and rightly so!
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Maybe a little fortunate to crack the Top-10 so soon but nobody can doubt Nole`s talent~>> he`ll definitely be a contender for #1 a few years down the track!!

#Murray seems to be more of a fighter but his overall game isn`t as smooth~~ anyway it doesn`t matter because both Djokovic & Murray will be firmly within the Top-10 by year`s end [expect them to both be present at TMC Shanghai!!]..
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One side of the argument you could say he has achieved it by taking his chances when opportunities arose such as indian wells, and qualifying for tournaments earlier in his career so he could get to where he has. But also if you look at most of his success' like the MM tournaments and Indian wells for example he never played any 'good' players, and when he does he usually loses e.g. Lost twice to Fed and Youzhny this year and Nadal in the IW finals.
and what do you mean by good players? here you are saying that murray should deserve to be in top 10. wouldnt that make murray a good player? and djokovic beat him last week..

... so i really dont get your point here...
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and djokovic beat him last week..
Yes, injured.

After the match Murray said his decision to play on was "unprofessional". Murray couldn't move very well and that is one of the biggest assets of his game.

I can't guarantee you enough that Murray will have a decent h2h record against Nole in a few years. Both times Murray has played Nole is whilst he was no where near his best. Quite unfortunate.

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Re: Has Nole had an easy ride to the top10?

Murray got all the WCs thrown at him early in his career and Djokovic didn't get those handouts, but that is more a question of how nationality can help in these situations.

Djokovic has done well at the Slams and has made a QF, something Murray hasn't done as of yet. It doesn't matter as they will both be there at the same time in the near future.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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and what do you mean by good players? here you are saying that murray should deserve to be in top 10. wouldnt that make murray a good player? and djokovic beat him last week..

... so i really dont get your point here...
When did I ever say Murray was a good player in this thread and deserved to be in the top10?

Also by 'good' players I mean players that are actually have a good consistent baseline games, guccione, massu and melzer aren't in this category, those are the players he had in his finals in all the MMs he won, hence the other side of the argument.
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Re: Has Nole had an easy ride to the top10?

Is It Because He Didn't Want To Play For Britain?? Or You Really Hate Him?? Whatever He Is Or Even If He's Now There With Luck He's Been So Better Than Murray Who's Waiting For Another Player To Remain A Top 15! By Winning A Bunch Of Battles With Arod He Thought Has Become A Better Player?? Nole Definitely Deserves To Be There!

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Re: Has Nole had an easy ride to the top10?

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Murray got all the WCs thrown at him early in his career and Djokovic didn't get those handouts, but that is more a question of how nationality can help in these situations.

Djokovic has done well at the Slams and has made a QF, something Murray hasn't done as of yet. It doesn't matter as they will both be there at the same time in the near future.
yes absolutely right! if there were no WC for andy murray right now he wouldn't have been even a top 50er

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Re: Has Nole had an easy ride to the top10?

and neither has he beaten Ljubicic.[/QUOTE]


You're saying with this sentence just like Ljubo is the black sheep in the top 10 but can i remind you that if Ljubo is so weak and shouldn't belong in the top 10 than Murray also shouldn't belong in the top 10 cause Ljubo beated him in the Doha final, easily!

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Re: Has Nole had an easy ride to the top10?

Well sometimes it is needed to not only play consistently but have luck when it comes to a breakthrough. Nole certainly hasn't played that much against "good players" on his way to reach top 10. That is his luck. Even if his luck had still existed, he could've missed his chance, but he took it. That is his consistency.
However, although he's reached top 10 currently, we never know in the future. We should aware that Hewitt and Safin reached No.1 in ther world quicker than Roger.
One more thing, right now there are so many jokes in the top 10. But I won't count Nole is one of them even though sometimes I call him Joke only because I don't like him

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