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What's the Difference Between Nadal's Old and New Service Motion?

They both take as much as a boeing takes to take off. He picks his behind still... So, what was the difference again?

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Re: What's the Difference Between Nadal's Old and New Service Motion?

I thought he had reverted to his old serve.
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Re: What's the Difference Between Nadal's Old and New Service Motion?

One is awful and the other is worse. That's the difference.
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Re: What's the Difference Between Nadal's Old and New Service Motion?

I'm not sure it's a serious technical question as you seem to focus more on his pre-serve rituals, that are quite annoying... anyway he's indeed back to his old motion, with shorter backswing, feet closer, more spin basically. A lot more consistency. BTW he just modified his motion on 1st serve, which was weird and led to errors. I think his confidence also comes from this.

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One is awful and the other is worse. That's the difference.
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Re: What's the Difference Between Nadal's Old and New Service Motion?

What's Rafa's best serving speed? Has he ever crossed 200 km/hr?

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What's Rafa's best serving speed? Has he ever crossed 200 km/hr?
Yes, very recently, in IW. It was discussed in one of his post-match pressers. Can't remember exactly which one it was, but I'm sure it was posted somewhere on MTF.

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Yes, very recently, in IW. It was discussed in one of his post-match pressers. Can't remember exactly which one it was, but I'm sure it was posted somewhere on MTF.
Yes, it was in the match against Clement.
The post match press interview is here
http://www.pacificlifeopen.com/4/pla...7/nadal310.asp
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Re: What's the Difference Between Nadal's Old and New Service Motion?

He served 131 against ferrero at IW, the fastest I've ever seen him serve.
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Re: What's the Difference Between Nadal's Old and New Service Motion?

Pity! Rafkullz' fastest serve is still 37 km/hr slower than Roddick. But I think he can improve his speed to as much as Murray's at least, sans loss in quality.

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Murray= +218 km/hr on an average, Andy= +225 km/hr on an average. Federer=? Where does Rafa feature in this league?

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Re: What's the Difference Between Nadal's Old and New Service Motion?

Speed doesn't mean anything. Sampras never hit huge speeds but had the best serve ever.
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Speed doesn't mean anything. Sampras never hit huge speeds but had the best serve ever.
All too true Glenn! Roddick himself being the case in point. Still, for someone of his muscular stature, not crossing 200 consistently is rather apalling. Of course, I'll like him anyway.

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All too true Glenn! Roddick himself being the case in point. Still, for someone of his muscular stature, not crossing 200 consistently is rather apalling. Of course, I'll like him anyway.
You have no clue about tennis, right? Serving is technique, it has nothing to do with "muscular stature".
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All too true Glenn! Roddick himself being the case in point. Still, for someone of his muscular stature, not crossing 200 consistently is rather apalling. Of course, I'll like him anyway.
'Muscular power' and 'technical ability' are two different things, and it's rather the latter than the former which is a necessity for great serving. It's not so much the speed that matters - Sampras is an excellent example of this, and so is Federer! - it's also the placing, the way a player can 'hide' the direction where he's intending to serve, etc.

With that said, I can only conclude that Raf's serving looked very good in IW - perhaps not all that 'stylish' , but very effective, which is illustrated by his very high serve stats. If anything, I don't think he should be working on getting more speed with his serve, but rather on getting it even more effective - if such is indeed possible!

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