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11 players have lost 8 times already since January 1st, 2007.

Kevin Kim (USA) #121
W1 L8 PCT0.111

Andreas Seppi (ITA) #102
W3 L8 PCT0.273

Kristian Pless (DEN) #84
W4 L8 PCT0.333

Daniele Bracciali (ITA) #82
W4 L8 PCT0.333

Ignacio Coll (ESP) #725
W4 L8 PCT0.333

Andrea Arnaboldi (ITA) #571
W6 L8 PCT0.429

Hector Ruiz-Cadenas (ESP) #287
W7 L8 PCT0.467

Ralph Grambow (GER) #600
W7 L8 PCT0.467

Nicolas Mahut (FRA) #94
W7 L8 PCT0.467

Ludwig Pellerin (FRA) #459
W7 L8 PCT0.467

Miguel Angel Lopez Jaen (ESP) #476
W10 L8 PCT0.556

The Italian and Spanish contestants are doing quite well , with the French hot on their heels. TMK (The Mighty Kim) looks quite untouchable at the moment...

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11 players have lost 8 times already since January 1st, 2007.

Kevin Kim (USA) #121
W1 L8 PCT0.111

Andreas Seppi (ITA) #102
W3 L8 PCT0.273

Kristian Pless (DEN) #84
W4 L8 PCT0.333

Daniele Bracciali (ITA) #82
W4 L8 PCT0.333

Ignacio Coll (ESP) #725
W4 L8 PCT0.333

Andrea Arnaboldi (ITA) #571
W6 L8 PCT0.429

Hector Ruiz-Cadenas (ESP) #287
W7 L8 PCT0.467

Ralph Grambow (GER) #600
W7 L8 PCT0.467

Nicolas Mahut (FRA) #94
W7 L8 PCT0.467

Ludwig Pellerin (FRA) #459
W7 L8 PCT0.467

Miguel Angel Lopez Jaen (ESP) #476
W10 L8 PCT0.556

The Italian and Spanish contestants are doing quite well , with the French hot on their heels. TMK (The Mighty Kim) looks quite untouchable at the moment...
I think Kevin Kim pretty much defines "last legs of his career" right now. Too bad he's not playing Sarajevo - drawing Rusedski could have given him the farewell win he so fervently desires.


Well, there will always be several Spanish and Italian futures players on this list. Both countries have endless weeks of $10k futures (the lowest tier) in which the point structure is 12-8-4-2-1-0. So basically, unless you are consistently reaching the finals, it's hard to progress unless you play bigger futures (often France, Great Britain, and Germany have $15k) or break into challengers via qualifying. Spain and, to a lesser extent, Italy have whole hosts of futures-level players who beat up on each other week after week. Occasionally a Santiago Ventura emerges and reaches the top 100, only to disappear as suddenly as he showed up (Ventura has plummeted back to the futures tour already...). I guess if any of these guys really had talent, they would rise above (and it's true that many Spanish futures regulars haven't done well in challenger main draws), but it's gotta be frustrating when reaching the SF nets you 4 ranking points, which barely moves the needle once you are inside the top 500. I've always wondered if the "quantity over quality" scheduling approach of the Spanish and Italian futures circuit was helpful or harmful. I guess it doesn't really matter for the Nadals of the world, but I wonder if it hindered the development of more Guillermo Garcia-Lopezs or something. Probably no one cares, I guess. Though for what it's worth the last two young prospects to really blow through the Spanish circuit were Nadal and then Almagro...it's kind of at a lull right now, without an eye-popping junior.

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bracciali is a player who could do very well for himself, his serve is rocket and his ground strokes are very good, i really dont know why he cant string good results toghether.

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[QUOTE=Balerion;5030829]Though for what it's worth the last two young prospects to really blow through the Spanish circuit were Nadal and then Almagro...it's kind of at a lull right now, without an eye-popping junior./QUOTE].

Thanks for the insight. Ironically, Almagro clocks in at 7 losses already. His winning percentage is .462 which can be explained by a heavy schedule AND obvious lack of results so far...

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Though for what it's worth the last two young prospects to really blow through the Spanish circuit were Nadal and then Almagro...it's kind of at a lull right now, without an eye-popping junior.
Thanks for the insight. Ironically, Almagro clocks in at 7 losses already. His winning percentage is .462 which can be explained by a heavy schedule AND obvious lack of results so far...
Losses generally indicate how often a player plays rather than how well because very few players win more than 2-3 titles per year, even at the lower levels. Winning % is more of a warning sign. Not that racking up losses is a great thing, but better to be consistently mediocre (Lopez-Jaen) than consistently bad (Kim).

Almagro has talent, but he's just not very good away from clay courts. He did spend some time on the South American swing earlier and picked up two QFs and a SF. He's still ranked fairly high, but that may change because he has to defend a win at Valencia, a SF at Barcelona and a QF at Rome by the beginning of May....all for a total of 455 of his 930 points. He's definitely capable of gaining back some ground at the French Open (2R last year), but it's very unlikely that he'll have the advantage of being a seed by then. Almagro has always been interesting to me, he really stalled out at the #100 range for a while, then had a break through last April/May, but he hasn't built on his successes that much and he's about to fall back down the ladder a bit if that doesn't change.


Incidentally, on a somewhat related note, Miguel-Angel Lopez-Jaen is into the quarterfinals of Spain F10 after knocking off...Santiago Ventura in the first round. How the mighty have fallen!
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Losses generally indicate how often a player plays rather than how well because very few players win more than 2-3 titles per year, even at the lower levels. Winning % is more of a warning sign. Not that racking up losses is a great thing, but better to be consistently mediocre (Lopez-Jaen) than consistently bad (Kim).

Almagro has talent, but he's just not very good away from clay courts. He did spend some time on the South American swing earlier and picked up two QFs and a SF. He's still ranked fairly high, but that may change because he has to defend a win at Valencia, a SF at Barcelona and a QF at Rome by the beginning of May....all for a total of 455 of his 930 points. He's definitely capable of gaining back some ground at the French Open (2R last year), but it's very unlikely that he'll have the advantage of being a seed by then. Almagro has always been interesting to me, he really stalled out at the #100 range for a while, then had a break through last April/May, but he hasn't built on his successes that much and he's about to fall back down the ladder a bit if that doesn't change.


Incidentally, on a somewhat related note, Miguel-Angel Lopez-Jaen is into the quarterfinals of Spain F10 after knocking off...Santiago Ventura in the first round. How the mighty have fallen!
I looked up the players' activity so far and the guy with the most wins - and matches played overall - this year is Javier Genaro-Martinez (ESP, #299) with 25 victories and a PCT of .806. He's been playing all the Spanish futures (1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 8, 9 and currently 10) winning one and making it to the finals in 4 others.

Adrian Menendez (ESP, #357) who's had a little less good luck is also on the same circuit and is not too far behind with 14 wins and a .667 PCT.

Interestingly, there were 47 Spaniards competing at the beginning of this week, which is below the 57 Frenchmen and above the 35 players coming from the USA, Germany or Italy.

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The funniest thing is that Mahut bagelled Safin. Roofel.

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Mahut now has a win.

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Strange, I wonder what is goin on with Safin
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bracciali is a player who could do very well for himself, his serve is rocket and his ground strokes are very good, i really dont know why he cant string good results toghether.
1) many injuries 2) strictly indoor hard/grass player
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I looked up the players' activity so far and the guy with the most wins - and matches played overall - this year is Javier Genaro-Martinez (ESP, #299) with 25 victories and a PCT of .806. He's been playing all the Spanish futures (1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 8, 9 and currently 10) winning one and making it to the finals in 4 others.

Adrian Menendez (ESP, #357) who's had a little less good luck is also on the same circuit and is not too far behind with 14 wins and a .667 PCT.

Interestingly, there were 47 Spaniards competing at the beginning of this week, which is below the 57 Frenchmen and above the 35 players coming from the USA, Germany or Italy.
Yes, in any given year the top 10 matches played list will be filled with 2-3 Spanish futures players. Last year it was:

1. Mischa Zverev (GER) 74-31
2. Benjamin Becker (GER) 70-30
3. Juan-Albert Viloca (ESP) 66-34
4. Gorka Fraile (ESP) 61-39
5. Lukas Rosol (CZE) 69-30
6. Alberto Francis (USA) 65-34
7. Andrey Golubev (RUS) 63-36
8. Nikolay Davydenko (RUS) 69-29
9. Simone Vagnozzi (ITA) 66-32
10. Roger Federer (SUI) 92-5

Players like Viloca and Francis took advantage of the four-round futures qualifying that is more prevalent in USA and Spain futures. A few other Spaniards Pablo Santos-Gonzalez and Jose Checa-Calvo were in the running all year before dropping off at the end.

Also, while the ATP site is miles better than it was years ago, it doesn't include any qualifying matches at any level. Steve G's site ranks players by matches played and winning percentage...taking qualifying into account and not including this week:

1. Vladimir Obradovic (SRB) 24-8
2. Justin Diao Natale (USA) 24-7
3. Javier Genaro-Martinez (ESP) 24-6
4. Peter Polansky (CAN) 26-3
5. Dusan Vemic (SRB) 20-8
6. Ignacio Coll-Riudavets (ESP) 18-10
7. Edouard Roger-Vasselin (FRA) 18-8
8. Carlos Poch-Gradin (ESP) 18-7
9. Fabio Fognini (ITA) 16-9
10. Miquel Perez-Puigdomenech (ESP) 16-9

Javier Genaro-Martinez is 27, so he doesn't have much of a future, although he has had a good year so far. Adrian Menendez, as you mentioned earlier, is also having a decent year and is 21, so he has a bit more promise. The best prospect with a ton of activity is Peter Polansky though...he's the infamous junior who fell out of a third-story hotel window, but recovered and is now looking like one of the better young players currently on the futures circuit.
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Also, while the ATP site is miles better than it was years ago, it doesn't include any qualifying matches at any level. Steve G's site ranks players by matches played and winning percentage...
Yeah, it'll be interesting to compare steveg's stats with the ones I got from coretennis.net (which don't take qualifying matches into account).

You seem to know a little about players from Spain. What's your take on Pere Riba and Carlos Boluda (younger categories)?

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The funniest thing is that Mahut bagelled Safin. Roofel.
Mahut also beat Ljubicic this season...and he's now 9-9 so a little closer to moving off this list.

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Dominik Hrbaty is playing quite poor this year. He lost to both Teimuraz Gabashvili and Potito Starace on hard courts in straight sets in less than 4 days.

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