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Rafa To Fight For Monte Carlo And Hamburg Events Master Series Status

I'm always afraid to start a thread in GM so please be nice.

I read this in an article in The Times Online. Rafa is going to work to try to make sure that Monte Carlo and Hamburg don't lose their status as Masters Series events (I hope he's successful...totally unfair to take away two clay court Masters Series events):

"Nadal could not be described as a ringleader, but he is the most prominent of those who do not want to see Monte Carlo or Hamburg lose their Masters status, as is suggested, who do not think that four back-to-back events in the spring of 2008 — a concertina effect caused by calendar shifts — is fair and want a significant say in helping to shape the future of the tour. They are talking to the European tournament directors, especially that of Monte Carlo (an event Nadal holds in the deepest esteem) who are unnerved at losing the status that they have fought long and hard to build.

“A lot of the clay-court players are unhappy,” Nadal said. “We have more players to talk to and we will see what we can do. It is a very important part of the season for so many players and the tournaments in Europe are the very best.”"

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle1505899.ece

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Very good initiative Rafa! I hope it will be fruitful. Monte-Carlo is many people's absolute favorite MS...
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Re: Rafa To Fight For Monte Carlo And Hamburg Events Master Series Status

Good luck - I hope he's successful.

Monte Carlo must stay - it's a fabulous event.
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Re: Rafa To Fight For Monte Carlo And Hamburg Events Master Series Status

How bout you learn to play on faster surfaces Rafa?
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Re: Rafa To Fight For Monte Carlo And Hamburg Events Master Series Status

I love MC too - it's a beautiful event.

And no way should there be such an unfair advantage to hardcourt players with all those hardcourt MS events and only a couple clay court MS events.
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Is Roddick not going to fight for it?
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And no way should there be such an unfair advantage to hardcourt players with all those hardcourt MS events and only a couple clay court MS events.
The real unfair disadvantage has really been for players like Hewitt and Roddick, who play very well on grass, and not as much on clay.

The real fair thing might be to add a grass MS (while keeping the clay MS). Players with clay court credentials have thus far had THREE T.M.S, and players with grass court prowesses: none.

Take Andy R for instance. He could even be #2 with a couple grass court T.M.S's up for grabs.
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Is Roddick not going to fight for it?
He should. He needs the down time.


I can't argue will Nadal on this issue.

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Re: Rafa To Fight For Monte Carlo And Hamburg Events Master Series Status

i didn't know it was in jeopardy of losing that status, that sucks, if anything the clay court season should be longer, most countries in Europe and South America have more clay courts. Watching Hard courts like now, and then the clay, and the grass is always good, what do the want, all hard court events?? That's real exciting.

You know i would not mind more grass court tennis, i don't like watching it, but a Grass Master Series would be intresting.

And Monte Carlo , thats the best Master Series tournament there is.
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The real unfair disadvantage has really been for players like Hewitt and Roddick, who could play very well on grass, and not on clay.

The fair thing might be to add a grass MS. Players with clay court credentials have THREE T.M.S, and players with grass court prowesses: none.

Take Andy R for instance. He could even be #2 with a couple grass court T.M.S's up for grabs.

I understand your point on one hand.

But on the other, there's just so few players who can play well on grass anymore. It's not just the clay court players - a lot of the hardcourt players can't play it either.

When I first started watching tennis, players could play all surfaces. Yes, they may have excelled on one surface more than others, but they still did decently on the other surfaces.

Now everyone specializes...either on hardcourts or clay. Again, very few on grass. And it's probably because there is only 3-4 weeks on grass each year but months on either hardcourts or clay.

I wish the players would try to up their games on all surfaces. Including grass. But just don't see it happening.
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The real fair thing might be to add a grass MS (while keeping the clay MS). Players with clay court credentials have thus far had THREE T.M.S, and players with grass court prowesses: none.
My own and many others' speech regarding the grass court Masters But it would need to be at the expense of hardcourt Masters, not at the expense of a claycourt Masters. We have already enough hardcourt (outdoor) Masters.

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The real unfair disadvantage has really been for players like Hewitt and Roddick, who play very well on grass, and not as much on clay.

The real fair thing might be to add a grass MS (while keeping the clay MS). Players with clay court credentials have thus far had THREE T.M.S, and players with grass court prowesses: none.

Take Andy R for instance. He could even be #2 with a couple grass court T.M.S's up for grabs.
I agree, MC should definetly stay but hamburg should be made into a grass court MC, paris should be cut...

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Well they'll never bother to up their games on grass if it constitutes such a small portion of the calendar - make it more significant and hopefully you will see more players take it seriously. Of course, a lot of it has to do with the fact that the sport doesn't have many grass courts at the grass roots, which is something that needs to be addressed.

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i didn't know it was in jeopardy of losing that status, that sucks, if anything the clay court season should be longer, most countries in Europe and South America have more clay courts. Watching Hard courts like now, and then the clay, and the grass is always good, what do the want, all hard court events?? That's real exciting.

You know i would not mind more grass court tennis, i don't like watching it, but a Grass Master Series would be intresting.

And Monte Carlo , thats the best Master Series tournament there is.
claycourt season should be longer? it already last from february till some events after or before the US open... enough claycourt, besieds hard courts have been slowed down enough...

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I understand your point on one hand.

But on the other, there's just so few players who can play well on grass anymore. It's not just the clay court players - a lot of the hardcourt players can't play it either.

When I first started watching tennis, players could play all surfaces. Yes, they may have excelled on one surface more than others, but they still did decently on the other surfaces.

Now everyone specializes...either on hardcourts or clay. Again, very few on grass. And it's probably because there is only 3-4 weeks on grass each year but months on either hardcourts or clay.

I wish the players would try to up their games on all surfaces. Including grass. But just don't see it happening.

Very well said. I would love to see it happen too. Regardless, I hope he's successful- MC is a great place to be.
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