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Re: Nadal v Baghdatis - Dubai rd1. Who wins?

stick a fork in the pig, he is done.

2005= 11 titles
2006= 5 titles
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Re: Nadal v Baghdatis - Dubai rd1. Who wins?

Shame we have to lose one of Baghdatis or Nadal so early in the tournament.

I think Nadal will get him though.
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no Brazilian magic for Baghdatinho here- Nadal in 2.
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Shame we have to lose one of Baghdatis or Nadal so early in the tournament.

I think Nadal will get him though.
i agree both are great to watch, i think Nadal will win, most likely, but very close, you never know with Baggy.
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Nadal in SS... Baggy has talent, but realistically he won't be able to throw it all together to beat Nadal.

Nadal has a very tough draw.... he better make the final!

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Henin won the WTA version.... not good,
everytime she wins a title at a certain venue = Rafa follows

dubai clay again
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What you have written could very well be said about Nadal and his results after Wimbledon. Although his results improved compared to 2005 (and he himself has emphasized that) people act as if he was supposed to win all the slams and now proclaim his downfall. Yes it was only his failure not the ability of his oponents.

What is it that you don't understand? That there are things that apply to Federer, but don't apply to Nadal? Wow, really a hard concept to grasp.

Look here, I have 2 statements for you:

1. If Federer loses to Ljubo, it's obviously because Fed didn't play his best.
2. If Ljubo loses to Fed, it's obviously because Ljubo didn't play his best.

Here you go, two perfectly symmetrical statements, but one of them makes perfect sense, while the other is - well, nonsense.

The same holds true for our little disagreement. Not everything that applies to Federer, actually applies to Nadal as well. I don't see what's so funny about such a simple fact.
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awwwww, little baby Your guy lost 4 times in finals? what a horrid occurence! its not like his slams wins and total loses each year are about the same
Oh, gimme a break. Don't lie and say that you wouldn't be happy if he lost Wimby, then cracked up totally and never won a GS again? Dropped to like 18 and hanged out there like Hewitt these days? Don't say you weren't secretly hoping for that after those 4 nasty losses to Nadal?

It's easy to dismiss the severity of those blows now, when he's got 3 more GS's since; but I'm referring to how it looked like back THEN.

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So if federer is not the best ever when its all said and done, he will have only himslef to blame? it wouldnt be because other players decided that they wanted to beat him 9-7 in the 5th or because some people wanted to deny him RG 2 years running. NOOOOO, its his own failures
Nadal on clay is the only possible exception to what I've said. Other than that, you can as much as you want, it won't change aynthing.
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fucking Stebs..
what is with that guy...
i think he is a fed fan who is always sucking up to the rafatards, what an ass kissing phony.
There's nothing wrong with stebs. Nadal isn't as bad as you Fed fans make him look. Of course, he isn't as great as Rafa fans claim either; but he still is the undisputed clay king and that's not to be underestimated.
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stick a fork in the pig, he is done.

2005= 11 titles
2006= 5 titles
2007= 0?

Do you really think Bag can beat Nadal at dubai Or did you jusr really want to post those stats?
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Oh, gimme a break. Don't lie and say that you wouldn't be happy if he lost Wimby, then cracked up totally and never won a GS again? Dropped to like 18 and hanged out there like Hewitt these days? Don't say you weren't secretly hoping for that after those 4 nasty losses to Nadal?


Yep I would laugh and hahaha
myself all the way to the jiggle factory . But this is where we differ because I and i'm sure many rafa supporters would agree, we don't dedicate our lives on the internet to show so much disrespect to a person we've never meet and claim to dislike. So this to me, only proves one thing, and that is not that you hate Nadal. Because what you don't see is that, that can be said with an simple, I hate Nadal, or maybe even a... I simply dislike the bloke, take your pick. But no, instead you (Rafa Haters) go out of your way to not only tell but show the world with many uncreative endeavors how much you dislike him . But I thought I was the fan, I don't even give him that much of my attention. It only proves that your life revolves around a man that you dispise.That your happiness and gratitude all stem from on place...see us nadal supporters and you haters aren't really all that different.. in fact it is that thing that divides us that also happens to connect us...the passion we both, nadal supporters and haters alike have for this one incredible human being.

Good day...now keep up the Rafa support/ I mean hate...oh damn now I'm confused

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Re: Nadal v Baghdatis - Dubai rd1. Who wins?

Baghdatis doesn't have any weapons to hurt Rafa with. I'd expect Nadal to win in straight sets. It's the quarter-finals that I'm worried about.
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What is it that you don't understand? That there are things that apply to Federer, but don't apply to Nadal? Wow, really a hard concept to grasp.

Look here, I have 2 statements for you:

1. If Federer loses to Ljubo, it's obviously because Fed didn't play his best.
2. If Ljubo loses to Fed, it's obviously because Ljubo didn't play his best.

Here you go, two perfectly symmetrical statements, but one of them makes perfect sense, while the other is - well, nonsense.

The same holds true for our little disagreement. Not everything that applies to Federer, actually applies to Nadal as well. I don't see what's so funny about such a simple fact.
I never said that everything that applies to Federer applies to Nadal as well. I mentioned Nadal as an example (the first to come to mind) where people (driven by their high expectations, not to mention their reluctance to give credit to the opponent) attribute a loss solely to one player's 'failure' as if the guy on the other side of the court had nothing to do with it.

The reason I mentioned that example was because you seem to believe that Federer lost those 4 matches against Nadal simply because he crumbled(that's the word you used, no?) not because he wasn't good enough to beat him on those occasions.

Noone denies that the pressure of high expectations has some effect on Roger. But to claim that that will be the only reason behind a future loss is just ridiculous and degrading to Federer himself. (I might as well claim that Rafa has underperformed because of the weight of expectations for him to get closer to Federer and claim the No1 spot )

It's as simple as that. I hope you understand my point now.
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yep I would laugh and hahaha myself all the way to the jiggle factory. But this is where we differ because I and i'm sure many rafa supporters would agree, we don't dedicate our lives on the internet to show so much disrespect to a person we've never meet and claim to dislike. So this to me, only proves one thing, and it's not that you hate Nadal. Because what you don't see is that, that can be said with an easy I hate Nadal, or I dislike the bloke, take you pick. But no, instead you go out of your (rafa haters) way to not only tell but show with many uncreative endeavors how much you dislike him , but what I thought I was the fan. It only proves that your life revolves around a man that you dispise.That your happiness and gratitude all stem from on place...see us nadal supporters and you haters aren't really all that different.. in fact it is that thing that divides us that also happens to connect us...the passion we both, nadal supporters and haters a like have for this one incredible human being.

Good day...now keep up the Rafa support/ I mean hate...oh damn now I'm confused
OMG this paragraph deserves to be framed and placed on a wall.
First, I'm not sure what you are actually saying in the first place. Honestly, it sounds as if you were drunk writing this, or you don't know first thing about English; so I'm just going to comment a few things that caught my attention.
What disrespect did I show for Nadal? I did no such thing. It's no disrespect to be compared to Federer, even if you come short in that comparison. He still compares to a lot of other guys favourably.
And drop your amazingly low level amateurish psychology on me. You are miles away.
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There's nothing wrong with stebs. Nadal isn't as bad as you Fed fans make him look. Of course, he isn't as great as Rafa fans claim either; but he still is the undisputed clay king and that's not to be underestimated.
again blame the fedtards.... yes there are a few who go on a bit, but even in my unbiased opinion....ALL fanbases have 'those types' and all say stuff about Nadal.
big deal, just as much said about fed, ljubo, a-rod.
top players get made fun of by everyone around MTF/rivals fans, simple as that.. no need for the sensitive pansies to cry about it, especially when they themselves dish it out to players they dont exactly support.
every tard tends to think their guy gets it worse, everyone is as bad as each other
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