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I'm trying to figure out why Nicolas Devilder advanced to the quarterfinals in Buenos Aires:

http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/T...07/506/mds.pdf

If in RR Group 8, Ferrero, Devilder & Lapentti all finished with 1 win apiece, the winner should've been whoever had the highest % of sets won right?
According to the results on the draw sheet, Devilder had a lower % of sets won & games won than Ferrero, so how come he moved on to the quarters? Can anyone explain this to me?
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Yes, please someone. I can't figure it out either.
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Lapentti withdrew from the tournament and was replaced by Lukas Dlouhy.

Ferrero and Devilder finished up in a tie, that was decided by their previous meeting. Devilder won 16 76 60, so he went through.
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Because he won the match between the two of them, isn't that it?

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Lapentti withdrew from the tournament and was replaced by Lukas Dlouhy.

Ferrero and Devilder finished up in a tie, that was decided by their previous meeting. Devilder won 16 76 60, so he went through.

That was easy to figure out...glad someone can add 1+1.
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Lapentti withdrew from the tournament and was replaced by Lukas Dlouhy.

Ferrero and Devilder finished up in a tie, that was decided by their previous meeting. Devilder won 16 76 60, so he went through.
Aaah, thanks Caralimon, I didn't realise it became a head-2-head thing if a tie. Makes sense now.
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So JC didn't want to play Dlouhy because he knew that even if he won he wouldn't go through?
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So JC didn't want to play Dlouhy because he knew that even if he won he wouldn't go through?
Right, and if Lapentti had played his 2nd match, JCF could have gone through. It was Lapentti's withdrawing that ensured that JCF/Devilder would be decided by head-to-head

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that means a LL would never have a chance to go to the quarters

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gosh... it sucks
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Re: Can someone explain the RR in Buenos Aires

Thanks Deb and everyone!

I get it now (finally... ) I'm having problems understanding RR.
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this is how the process was summarised by a professional writer

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Earlier Thursday, former No. 1 Juan Carlos Ferrero defeated Czech replacement Lukas Dlouhy 6-3, 6-3 and still failed to reach the quarterfinals.

Ferrero was second in his round-robin group to Nicolas Devilder of France, who beat the Spaniard on Wednesday and advanced to his first ATP quarterfinals against Diego Hartfield of Argentina. Devilder had lost to Nicolas Lapentti of Ecuador, who withdrew because of an injury and was replaced by Dlouhy.
i don't think it makes more sense than our mtf explanations, but he tried
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I think it confused me more...

Hopefully rr will be gone in 2008, and I won't have to worry about understanding it anymore.
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