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ARod out-aced but wins over Querrey 6-4, 7-6 (3)

What? Boo, no thread yet on Andy's win late last night?

Solid match from all appearances by Roddick. Querrey shows, however, that he's got the goods ... almost doubling Andy's in aces, and hanging with The Man 'til the end. Looking forward to Sam having better draws in the future, and movin' on up in the rankings.

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Re: ARod out-aced but wins over Querrey 6-4, 7-6 (3)

He's always out-aced.
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He's always out-aced.
By always you mean...when he plays Federer?

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Re: ARod out-aced but wins over Querrey 6-4, 7-6 (3)

Acasuso out-aced him at RG in 2005, I recall. As did Safin and Baghdatis at the AO the years they beat him (although seeing as it was by 1 in both cases, and they're no mean servers themselves, I doubt it's all that significant).

Oh, and Muller in that three-tiebreak upset at the 2005 US Open, 24 to 16.

Arthurs and Sargsian both did it the years they beat him at RG. Actually, looking at the Arthurs match, it really isn't surprising that he served 25 aces over five long sets on clay, including a 16-14 tiebreak which he won; what is remarkable is that Roddick only managed 6 aces in response for the whole match.

There are matches that Roddick lost when he out-aced his opponent as well, so it's not necessarily the one telling factor of defeat; Johansson at the US Open (34 to 30), and Hewitt at the AO by a wide margin, 31 to 14.

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Re: ARod out-aced but wins over Querrey 6-4, 7-6 (3)

The ace stat is of little significance. I heard his first serve wasn't working, so that could explain it.

Nice win Andy. Great effort by Sam though! I hope to see him a lot in the future

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Acasuso out-aced him at RG in 2005, I recall. As did Safin and Baghdatis at the AO the years they beat him (although seeing as it was by 1 in both cases, and they're no mean servers themselves, I doubt it's all that significant).

Oh, and Muller in that three-tiebreak upset at the 2005 US Open, 24 to 16.

Arthurs and Sargsian both did it the years they beat him at RG. Actually, looking at the Arthurs match, it really isn't surprising that he served 25 aces over five long sets on clay, including a 16-14 tiebreak which he won; what is remarkable is that Roddick only managed 6 aces in response for the whole match.

There are matches that Roddick lost when he out-aced his opponent as well, so it's not necessarily the one telling factor of defeat; Johansson at the US Open (34 to 30), and Hewitt at the AO by a wide margin, 31 to 14.
Mardy Fish also outaced him at the AO I believe So did Ancic.

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The ace stat is of little significance. I heard his first serve wasn't working, so that could explain it.
What, that can't be true. He can't win without his first serve working

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He'll lose to Murray if his first serve isn't working.

Assuming Murray comes through Lee tonight.
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He'll lose to Murray if his first serve isn't working.

Assuming Murray comes through Lee tonight.
He served 75% in his first round match. His serve is easy to fix, I'm sure he's not worried

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Great win for Andy, and I would like to see Sam Querrey go places in the future. I didn't see this match but I saw one in Melbourne.

For now, I am eagerly waiting for an Andy versus Andy grudge match. I guess it is a grudge match after Cincinnati. There are too many good dynamics there, Gilbert Roddick, Murray Roddick, perhaps Gilbert Connors. All kinds of goodies
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Re: ARod out-aced but wins over Querrey 6-4, 7-6 (3)

Does andy have the best serve in the top 10, or is that just the belief. Because although it's fast as hell, he doesn't seem to get a lot of his first serves in, and fed does out ace him a lot, so I was wondering?
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...he doesn't seem to get a lot of his first serves in, and fed does out ace him a lot, so I was wondering?
Huh? That's simply untrue. Andy's typically the only big server in the ATP's top 10 for first serve % at the end of the year. He is averaging 67% this season so far and that's about what he has averaged at least the last 2 seasons. Fed out-aces him because Fed is a much better returner and he reads Andy's serve very well.

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By always you mean...when he plays Federer?

Federer usually out acing Roddick not because Federer usually out acing everybody he plays.
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Re: ARod out-aced but wins over Querrey 6-4, 7-6 (3)

its not hard to out ace someone with a serve as tame as roddick. querrey is on his way up. i wanna see him play on grass, he could really do some damage
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Re: ARod out-aced but wins over Querrey 6-4, 7-6 (3)

What makes Roddick difficult to beat is his high first serve % not the number of aces. He wins 78% on 1st serve, but falls to 52% on 2nd serve. It is notable that Federer wins 63% and Nadal wins 59% on their 2nd serves. He gives players a limited number of 2nd serves which prevent the limitations of his game from being exposed. This makes his serve difficult to break and is the key to his game:

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