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The English “gentleman”

He looks like a kid himself. Fresh faced, must have been a choirboy. I am referring of course to Tim Henman. An English gentleman you say?

During one of his matches I witnessed perhaps one of the ugliest exchanges a player had during the tournament with a ball kid. We had one boy, a little chubby, who worked his tail off in 100 degree heat. Perhaps he was a step slower than most.

Mr. Henman would have none of it. Talked directly to the boy, told him he was slow, and asked him, how on earth did he become a ball kid? Then Tim went to the umpire’s chair and complained, pointing to the poor lad, and making it quite clear that he never wanted to see the boy on “his” court again.

We had to remove the boy who, by this time, was mortified and had burst into tears. That’s when being a mother really helps. You just wanted to pull him to you and tell him that everything will be all right. Would hate to have you as a father, Mr. Henman.


from http://www.tennis-ontheline.com/iw04ball.htm
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Sandra Vincent was a volunteer at the 2004 Pacific Life Open in Indian Wells, and worked as a Ball Kid Coordinator. We thank her for sharing her unique perspective of the tournament and some of its stars.
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Re: "Gentleman" Tim: Think again

i think we should hear confirmation of this from a second source before we jump to any conclusions.

tbh, i think she's probably being melodramatic and exagerrating

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Re: "Gentleman" Tim: Think again

Tim has always been a prick to ballkids, it's not anything unusual from him.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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Re: "Gentleman" Tim: Think again

Certainly puts an interesting perspective on that extended thank you to the ballkids he gave in his runner's-up speech - wanting to restore his image a little? Anyway, I don't know who gave him the "Gentleman Tim" nickname but it's always been rubbish, considering that a couple of years he repeatedly muttered oaths under his breath after bad points that the microphones picked up. I find it hard to believe that anyone could be so annoyed by one ballkid that they'd go to the umpire to ask for his removal, but then Henman is the man who once complained at an indoor tournament a few years ago that the curtains at the back of the hall weren't fully drawn and it was distracting him. He has some Agassi-like tendencies in that way.

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Didnt he once hit a ballgirl?

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Yes, Lurker he did and got disqualified for it and deservedly so.
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Re: "Gentleman" Tim: Think again

I remember the headlines well, far more than Wimbledon itself that year; it was after losing a doubles match and as he walked towards the net with his partner, he hit a ball down the court which struck a ballgirl. He didn't intend to hit anyone (unlike, say, Agassi's attempt after losing the Rafter match in 2001), but it's the act and the hit that counts, and unlike back then I don't think anyone'll be getting him to apologise to the IW ballkid with a bouquet of flowers and a peck on the cheek.

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ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I remember this one time when I went on a vacation on the Maldives. That was in the year 2001, I think. I went to this spa. I went to walk around with my girlfriend. I walk in, and we want to book a spa. This guy goes, "AHH, I remember you. You beat Sampras. I saw you on TV." That was like, really, how can you remember me? This guy has probably never been off his island and still knows me. I was a little bit shocked. Then I went to play tennis with him because he was actually the tennis teacher. It was nice.

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Well Sjengster since he is Gentleman Tim, just like the well respected Agassi. I don't think too much will come from this incident, doing it at Wimbledon and in Miami are two very different things.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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See that's why I hate articles out of context (even if the link was provided). That excerpt was from a story about Indian Wells, written by the Ballkids coordinator and the whole thing is a bit strange. She talks about Tommy Haas and Roger Federer too, complaining that TH swore too much and Roger didn't sign enough autographs (the tournaments that I work for, ballkids in uniform are not allowed to harass the players). It's worth reading the whole article, but in the end I think the woman comes off as a bit of a whiner, unfortunately.

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He didn't intend to hit anyone (unlike, say, Agassi's attempt after losing the Rafter match in 2001),

If I ewre Agassi, I'd do more than that. That cocksucker robbed him of a Wimbledon title.

And of course Henman is an elitist scumbag. That goes without saying. Too bad this pomposity will never compensate for his lack of Top 10 talent. England deserves him and Victoria Beckham.
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But I like Victoria.

Henman's curse is in her mouth. And he got the title "Gentleman" because he's the epitome of an English gentlemen.

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