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Yes, he can prove the doubters wrong 48 26.09%
No chance at all 116 63.04%
He will win Monte Carlo 6 3.26%
Win in Rome 16 8.70%
Win Hamburg 4 2.17%
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Re: Can Roddick Win A Major Clay Title Within 2 Years? If so, which one?

He probably can..? But I can only pray that he won't...

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Re: Can Roddick Win A Major Clay Title Within 2 Years? If so, which one?

In theory he could win one within 2 years, but I don't think so.

For one he would have to have a beneficial draw, two also he would need the weather to be consistently warm as that makes the clay quicker and if the organisers put less clay on the surface that would help him.

Yes, attacking players like Edberg, Stich and Sampras have won TMS titles on clay, and I don't think Roddick is as good as them not even at that age, as these players had good wins on the surface beating former French Open champions and tough claycourters, something Roddick hasn't managed to achieve as of yet.

The other factor against him is that his serve will come back more often on clay, and he doesn't have the overall tactical ability to move the ball around effectively with variations of spin and angles, his lack of movement on clay hinders him especially when the rallies get longer where he already is at a huge disadvantage.

Hewitt is better on clay than Roddick and hasn't managed to win a major title on clay. Roddick may do so if all the above factors are in his favour, but within 2 years it's highly unlikely.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Kitzbuhel is also quite important and there the clay is quite fast because of the altitude.
He will never play there as it the tournament is played in the North American hardcourt season where he gets most of his points.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Re: Can Roddick Win A Major Clay Title Within 2 Years? If so, which one?

i don't think he will win one in the next 2 years. "no chance at all" is a bit over the top though
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i don't think he will win one in the next 2 years. "no chance at all" is a bit over the top though
Possibly, then again not many people would ever think such a guy like Alex Corretja could ever beat on Sampras on grass from 2 sets down.

Though Duckboy won't be winning one within 2 years I think that's a fairly safe bet.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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Re: Can Roddick Win A Major Clay Title Within 2 Years? If so, which one?

I don't think that Andy can win often on clay either-unless he develops other areas of his game, such as serve and volley, in order to balance out his serve....
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Re: Can Roddick Win A Major Clay Title Within 2 Years? If so, which one?

Andy IS scheduled to play Monte Carlo, what are you guys talking about? At least, it's listed on his official site's schedule.

As for the question... I think he has a chance, but I have to wait to see how he does this year, first time on clay with Brad, to really be able to say.

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Brad Gilbert was never known for his ability to play on clay, it will be interesting to see how he can help Roddick's game on that surface.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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Brad Gilbert was never known for his ability to play on clay, it will be interesting to see how he can help Roddick's game on that surface.
Yep, it will be interesting, that's why I'm reserving my judgement on the poll question. Andre had some successes on clay when he was under Brad's tutelage, so who knows. If Brad helps him anywhere it wouldn't be suiting his game to clay so much as his mentality - the patience, etc. that's my opinion anyhow

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Yep, it will be interesting, that's why I'm reserving my judgement on the poll question. Andre had some successes on clay when he was under Brad's tutelage, so who knows. If Brad helps him anywhere it wouldn't be suiting his game to clay so much as his mentality - the patience, etc. that's my opinion anyhow
Personally I wouldn't give Brad much credit for Andre's success on clay, he already had what it took - by the time he was Andy's age he'd had two RG finals (although he probably should have won them both).

But it will be interesting to see how Roddick goes in the next few weeks. He probably will do better than last year, but I can't really see him holding his seeding in any of the big events.
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Yep, it will be interesting, that's why I'm reserving my judgement on the poll question. Andre had some successes on clay when he was under Brad's tutelage, so who knows. If Brad helps him anywhere it wouldn't be suiting his game to clay so much as his mentality - the patience, etc. that's my opinion anyhow
Agassi made his 2 finals when he was coached by Nick "Sunglasses" Bolliteri at the forehand academy.

Roddick gets too easily frustrated on his favourite serve and when his serve starts to come back more often he doesn't have the game to beat the top claycourters. Those last 2 sets against Sargsian at the FO, who isn't that good on clay are the things that Gilbert will have to battle against. I think its time that he starts beating some decent players on clay this year. I don't think he is so bad that he will lose to Robredo on clay, he could beat him on anything.

The question was 2 years and yes there is plenty of time to answer the question.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Re: Can Roddick Win A Major Clay Title Within 2 Years? If so, which one?

I think he can if his draw opened up, at least once in his career. You cant be #1 and not win a big clay tournament, even Sampras did!
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I think he can if his draw opened up, at least once in his career. You cant be #1 and not win a big clay tournament, even Sampras did!
Wrong, Boris Becker managed to achieve it and Jimmy Connors never won a clay title in Europe. To be fair at least Becker had made major finals TMS Rome and Monte Carlo.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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I think its time that he starts beating some decent players on clay this year. I don't think he is so bad that he will lose to Robredo on clay, he could beat him on anything.
Oh I totally agree, it's time he steps up on the red stuff, big time.

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Oh I totally agree, it's time he steps up on the red stuff, big time.
Go to the hospital bunk, one I didn't offend you and two you actually agreed with something I said. I hope they have found the illness that is effecting you?

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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