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WWW? Shanghai SF: (1) Nadal vs (4) Cilic

H2H is 4-1 for Rafa, lost their first match badly in 2009, won very convincingly this year in Acapulco (didn't watch that match, no idea how they played).

They didn't play that consistently to make a really informed prediction, but I'll go wit Rafa in 3.
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Cilic was still in his early season slump at Acapulco and looked injured in that particular match. This one will probably be much closer, but if both maintain recent form Nadal should take it relatively easily. Cilic hasn't been peaking recently, unless he finds another gear tomorrow he'll find it hard to hit through Nadal.

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Re: WWW Shanghai SF: (1)Nadal vs (4)Cilic

Cilic will need his USO14 form to beat Nadal tomorrow. However, that probably won't happen, so I'll go with Nadal in 2. If he plays like he played vs ARV, he'll be lucky to win more than few games.
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Cilic has been on-off lately. A good win then a lousy followup, see losses to Diego and Adrian Mannarino.

He'll need to be top notch in serving to have a shot.

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Re: WWW Shanghai SF: (1)Nadal vs (4)Cilic

Cilic is a loser who fluked his way to his only GS title.

So even 20% Nadal is enough for the win, but Rafa gonna be Rafa, he will play at 100% or with however is left in the tank.

So Nadal will win, but he might lose a set.
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Cilic is a loser who fluked his way to his only GS title.

So even 20% Nadal is enough for the win, but Rafa gonna be Rafa, he will play at 100% or with however is left in the tank.

So Nadal will win, but he might lose a set.
But Cilic tore Federer into pieces to win his Slam.
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Re: WWW Shanghai SF: (1)Nadal vs (4)Cilic

i think nadal has advantge in this match up because nadal will be able to return his balls and it will make cilic do a lot of UE's. the surface really favours cilic, he really likes fast courts so i eouldn't count him our but nadal is the favorite here.
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But Cilic tore Federer into pieces to win his Slam.
Cilic is a loser, but he is still better than Baghdatis, Phillipouses, Roddick, Gonzales and other studs Fraud faced earlier in his career
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Re: WWW Shanghai SF: (1)Nadal vs (4)Cilic

Nadal should be able to expose Cilic's movement, I mean even Dimitrov who moves better was struggling to defend. Still not sure of Nadal's energy at the moment, he is playing a lot of matches.
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Re: WWW Shanghai SF: (1)Nadal vs (4)Cilic

Hard not to pick Nadal here, but mainly because I haven't seen any of the Cilic matches here. I would think the fast surface would suit Cilic big time, but with him most of the time his mind usually has more impact in his game than the actual court.

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Re: WWW Shanghai SF: (1)Nadal vs (4)Cilic

Cilic in three sets.
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Cilic to NID this one quickly and save tennis to 3&4.
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Re: WWW Shanghai SF: (1)Nadal vs (4)Cilic

why is this even a question?. marin is clueless against nadal. he'd have to enter 2014 US open redline mode to have any shot at all. nadal in 2
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Brilliant matchup for semifinals

Nadal is playing his best game and has the mandate now. And he has destroyed Cilic even this year. Most important for Cilic to not have mental problems. The wind is against him here, even if he loses he can try to be solid and build confidence for WTF and maybe end the year in top 4. Unless of course Cilic finds his best game like US Open 2014 then he can fight fate and destroy Nadal (like last time they faced in China), but that is very rare.
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Re: WWW Shanghai SF: (1)Nadal vs (4)Cilic

Cilic has no answer for Nadal physically or mentally.
I've never seen a more flawed grand slam champion than Cilic.
Cilic's performance at Wimbledon, gave tennis a horrible reputation.
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