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View Poll Results: Who will win Shanghai Rolex Masters 2017?
Rafael Nadal 33 43.42%
Roger Federer 29 38.16%
Alexander Zverev 4 5.26%
Marin Cilic 1 1.32%
Dominic Thiem 0 0%
Grigor Dimitrov 1 1.32%
Pablo Carreno Busta 1 1.32%
David Goffin 0 0%
Nick Kyrgios 4 5.26%
Denis Shapovalov 1 1.32%
Qualifier 2 2.63%
Other 0 0%
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Hopefully Denis beats Troicki, I think he should. Thiem/Shapovalov would be fun. Potential for Shapovalov/Zverev round 3?

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Carreno Busta getting a bye looks just wrong...

On topic I think Roger has a decent shot here at the title
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Good draw for Federer.
Nadal's half is pretty packed. Pouille will have a chance to avenge his recent choke if he passes The Fog. Then Dimitrov/Querrey and Cilic/Kyrgios in the SF. Or maybe KAndy for the REAL final?

Interesting potential R2 match between Shapovalov and Thiem. I was hoping these two could meet at least at the LC, but it was decided to feed the crowd with a cliche "revenge" theme.
Also worth mentioning that USO juniors champion WU Yibing got one of the most frustrating draws in the history of frustrating draws. I was looking forward to watching him play, but not sure I'll be able to digest this particular matchup for longer than 5 minutes.
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Carreno Busta getting a bye looks just wrong...
I know I'll sound like a hater, which I am not, but he can get all they byes in the world, as long as he stays out of the WTF.

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Good draw for Federer.
Nadal's half is pretty packed. Pouille will have a chance to avenge his recent choke if he passes The Fog. Then Dimitrov/Querrey and Cilic/Kyrgios in the SF. Or maybe KAndy for the REAL final?

Interesting potential R2 match between Shapovalov and Thiem. I was hoping these two could meet at least at the LC, but it was decided "the revenge" theme is more interesting.
Also worth mentioning that USO juniors champion WU Yibing got one of the most frustrating draws in the history of frustrating draws. I was looking forward to watching him play, but not sure I'll be able to digest this particular matchup for longer than 5 minutes.
Thiem has no chance against Shap on hardcourts.
It can be called an upset if he actually beats him!

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Probable matchups:

Federer:
Schwartzman --> Sock --> Goffin --> Zverev
Nadal:
Donaldson --> Pouille --> Dimi --> Cilic

Pretty comparable I would say.

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Thiem has no chance against Shap on hardcourts.
It can be called an upset if he actually beats him!
"No chance" is an overstatement, IMO. The surface favors Shapovalov, but Thiem has the experience, which cannot be ignored. As much as I am enjoying my ride on Shapobandwagon, I am also realistic. The Menace is raw. Looking past the next match is shortsighted, because his results can and likely will fluctuate. Mental robustness he's been showing lately is fantastic, it gives him chances against almost anybody. Certainly on this surface against someone like Thiem, who is not the fastest to adapt (I am kind here). But there's no guarantee he will sustain it. The pressure of being under the spotlight and being a favorite adds up. Let's see how he deals with it from match to match.

I think this particular matchup is interesting, because there's some similarity between them. First of all, two OHBH's, a righty and a lefty - honestly, can a fan ask for more? Also, both move very well. And finally, what makes it unpredictable, is that both tend to be somewhat wild - try to hit winners whenever possible and impossible. I can't wait!

Let's just hope Troicki doesn't spoil our party. He's painfully bad nowadays, so he really shouldn't. But like I said, I am taking one match at a time.
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"No chance" is an overstatement, IMO. The surface favors Shapovalov, but Thiem has the experience, which cannot be ignored. As much as I am enjoying my ride on Shapobandwagon, I am also realistic. The Menace is raw. Looking past the next match is shortsighted, because his results can and likely will fluctuate.
I certainly consider Shap an interesting prospect. Not the next 10 slam wonder, yet.
Thiem has been losing to mugs on hardcourt, and Shap is not a mug. So I think Thiem has a slim chance if they meet. Let's wait and watch.

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Nick Kyrgios looks a real shot here, and will be keen to redeem himself from last year's unfortunate exit.
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Hopefully Denis rips Thiem a new one, would be a much better and more entertaining result for Denis to do damage here meanwhile Thiem is just predictable on HC. No thanks, so please Denis beat Troicki and Thiem. Tennis is in your hands

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Although Shanghai isn’t too good for him so I can see Querrey eliminating him.
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I certainly consider Shap an interesting prospect. Not the next 10 slam wonder, yet.
Thiem has been losing to mugs on hardcourt, and Shap is not a mug. So I think Thiem has a slim chance if they meet. Let's wait and watch.
Let's not talk about what kind of mugs PCB has been losing to. He prevailed solely on experience and the ability to grind his opponent down. Thiem has both. And he has many more tools than PCB. So I think it will be closer than many expect, despite the surface. I am hoping to be wrong, of course. We'll have to wait and see, indeed.

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I think a lot depends on the result of Nadal-Kyrgios final at Beijing, to see if Rafa could reach final at Shanghai.

Also, hoping for the Federer-Del Po semifinal, the repeat of USO Quarterfinal.

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PCB as 7th seed, how often do you see that?

I don't think Thiem will go far.

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Reasonably balanced draw, some fun match ups; looking forward to it.

Verdasco/Fog has some potential as far as the R1 matches are concerned.
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