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Federer pushes with his forehand now

Ive noticed that throughout the US Open, federers forehand is not what it was before. Looking at some of his matches its merely a rally shot at times but what saves him is his variation off it. Watching the Laver Cup matches especially the one vs Kyrgios, there were barely any winners of fed's forehand and a lot of those were dropping quite short but with a lot of topspin.

It would be nice to see the forehand speeds as well; there is barely and depth to them most of the time. IMO his indoor season wont be as convincing if he doesnt fix this powderpuff forehand.
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Re: Federer pushes with his forehand now

I agree. That bigger racquet ruined his forehand. On the odd occasion he strikes it with full power and commitment but now it's basically a rally shot. He can't hit a clean I/O FH winner from the baseline which is so sad, in his prime he could do it at will.

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This thread has been done many many times.

Its been this way ever since he changed rackets to the 97 sq inch racket in 2013-2014. His backhand is more reliable, but his forehand has fallen off a cliff from where it was.

This is nothing new
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Re: Federer pushes with his forehand now

It was good in early 2017, but now it's a bit worse. Hope he rediscovers his form.
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Re: Federer pushes with his forehand now

His game has changed as an adaptation mechanism to the current times, and it will keep changing.

He'll probably be moonballing with extreme topspin a-la RAFA in late 2018.
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I also noticed that. Roger's current forehand reminds me of Gasquet. I thought it was bad until the last 5 points when Federer's waiting for mistakes strategy paid off.
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Re: Federer pushes with his forehand now

His FH has been worse on the whole since the racquet switch (in 2013 and 2014) but earlier this year (AO, IW and Miami) his FH (both the rally and I/O) was the best I've seen in years, it was as crucial to his newfound success as his BH improvement (that everyone talks up). So it's not like he isn't capable anymore of being aggressive off that side, hope he gets back into that mindset for indoor season.
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Re: Federer pushes with his forehand now

I agree. The ability to hit many forehand winners is gone.
Although the racket switch has coincided with the forehand's decline, and Fed has alluded to it himself in front of Edberg, it isn't logical. Hasn't affected anyone else the same way.
I think it should be something to do with technique/grip/physical decline. A bigger racket is supposed to give more power with less control.

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His FH has been worse on the whole since the racquet switch (in 2013 and 2014) but earlier this year (AO, IW and Miami) his FH (both the rally and I/O) was the best I've seen in years, it was as crucial to his newfound success as his BH improvement (that everyone talks up). So it's not like he isn't capable anymore of being aggressive off that side, hope he gets back into that mindset for indoor season.
Yes my thoughts exactly. Since the racquet switch, his forehand has declined but during the beginning of the year, his fh was great. Now that sort of power and depth has been lost. Just looking at 2017, there's been a big difference.
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Re: Federer pushes with his forehand now

I just think it's mostly his intensity and explosiveness on the court that has declined. As fluid as his forehand is, he really put a lot of body and footwork into the shot when he was younger, which just isn't always quite there anymore. Racquet change was a factor as well of course.

It's still a good shot, but not as dominant as it once was.
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Re: Federer pushes with his forehand now

Well, there's also the tiny detail he's 36 now. I guess it depends on how he's feeling that day. Against Querrey, his FH worked much better. Maybe because Nick was putting high levels of spin and that made it more difficult for the old man to hit comfortably. It's definitely working much better than at the USO series. That transition between grass and HC seemed to have been devastating for him.

But anyways, this is actually what Nadal was pointing him out when he went 'coach mode' during the Kyrgios match. Hopefully this intense warmup will help him reach Shangai in a better form.
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But anyways, this is actually what Nadal was pointing him out when he went 'coach mode' during the Kyrgios match. Hopefully this intense warmup will help him reach Shangai in a better form.
I thought it may have been a tactical decision/ confidence issue more than anything. He lost quite a few points from a winning position where he put Kyrgios on the defensive, but didn't follow up weakish replies. A good example is the point at 3-4* 40-40 (2) first set where he hit a good FH dtl that Kyrgios could only slice back. Instead of pressing his advantage Roger hit that weak mid-court shot right back to Kyrgios FH side which allowed Kyrgios to take control of the point.

He definitely looked much improved compared to NY. He hit his TS BH (very beautiful winners from that side vs. Kyrgios) and returned pretty well. So not everything is lost.
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I agree it's pretty poor right now (for his standards), but It doesn't mean it can get back to normal in the next tournaments. Both USO and RLC were played in very slow surfaces.



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Re: Federer pushes with his forehand now

Fed used to push the backhand and hit the forehand
Then he began to hit the backhand and push the forehand

Now he just pushes on both wings.

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Fed used to push the backhand and hit the forehand
Then he began to hit the backhand and push the forehand

Now he just pushes on both wings.
Yet he won both of his games.
This guy has some variety. So many aspects to his game that he can draw another card out of his bag of tricks if the first does not work!

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