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If Federer doesn't win the WTF, would it be a mixed year?

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#1 ·
So I was thinking about this after Fed's lack of commitment/preparation/conviction call it what you want post Wimbledon which cost him a great shot at USO, I bet if he was in USO 15 form with his improved BH and BH return he would've done the treble this year too and I'm wondering if he's entered a downward spiral and his year post Wimbledon is going to resemble 2013.

That being said, I don't think he'll have a better chance to win the WTF than this year with DJ out of the frame. Dull should be manageable indoors and he's pretty much owned him there save 2013 where he was totally out of form.

Shame his shot at #1 is gone when all he had to do was play Cincy-USO and he would've atleast made the final or even won it and kept the gap to about a 1000 points to attack it later in the year.

So if Fed bombs out at WTF or doesn't win it, will it be a lost opportunity? Is this the last good shot Fed has at winning 7 WTFs?
 
#2 ·
A 2 slam year cannot be considered a mixed year after the last few seasons! A great year all round I'd say.
 
#9 ·
A mixed year, No. A great year, Yes. I know you're still bumming about how the North America swing turned out to be, but I think it's time to let that go. Like I said before there was a time this season it seemed within reason to think that Federer was going to win the US open. But something seeming that way and it actually happening aren't even in the same ballpark. Anything could've happened and things didn't work out the way Federer and his fans hoped. But at this age, even if Federer would win a semi final I wouldn't be sure for the final. At this age a two slam year should always be regarded as a great year. Winning the WTF would be the like my parents telling me I can stay up for an extra hour as a 9 year old, after having an awesome birthday already:nerd:. Come on, at some point you've got to count your blessings as a fan. I fear for your well being if Nadal actually wins the WTF:timebomb::wink2:
 
#21 ·
is this sirious:lol:?
people are greedy here. sampras never won more than 2 salms a year in his entire career!
 
#23 ·
If Federer doesn't play tennis anymore it would still be a miraculous year for him.
 
#24 ·
Of course it would be mixed. I don't know how anyone could possibly argue that. Yes, it was great up to Wimbledon, i.e. for 3 months of play. Nobody could have expected that, it was like a dream come true. Then the awful was mixed in after Wimbledon with a dreadful US Open series, a wake-up-call to us dreamers.

Expectations had clearly risen after the level Roger showed in the early months of the year. We know what he is still capable of and I was so looking forward to the NA HC season, yet he showed up sub-par. If he can pick himself up (doesn't look likely right now), the year could still end on a sweet note, else the spring will look far, far away.
 
#25 ·
To answer rationally people need to think what they would've said, had they been asked the same question a year ago. :p
 
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#26 ·
This is like asking, if Federer doesn't win WTF ever again, would it be a mixed career?

Same answer to both questions. A slow facepalm.
 
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#27 ·
Or maybe Fed does not think like us ?! I am sure he has a plan . He likes to play best players but Rafa does not . If Fed is not there then who is there to challenge Rafa this year?! That is what McEnroe said if there is someone to challenge you then you think what you can do better to improve. The best rivalries sells the game not one player.
 
#32 ·
not sure how you could ever analyze 2017 has a 'mixed bag' for Federer considering how much success he has had and such a massive resurgence considering his struggles in recent seasons. Also its pure speculation. Federer appears to have had some physical issues that distracted him mentally, sure, but there are a million variables.

In what aspect could you potentially make a claim that Federer would have wasted a chance to win the WTF this year when it hasn't even happened yet, and even if he does fail to win it there could be a million reasons why? Unless you're seriously suggesting Roger should have taken it easy like ALL season to gurantee himself fit at the WTF, which is basically the only way to make it a sure thing that he was in shape to win his 7th title there

too many variables. And I think Federer will be happy as hell as is with this season.

Not exactly a great fan OP if you're constantly second guessing and finding things to whine or bitch about when Fed has had such a stellar season. At this point nothing changes the fact that he's had a stellar season. And tennis and health isn't a science, you can't guarantee that you're in great shape for a particular event so I'm not quite sure what you're suggesting Roger do in prep for the WTF
 
#42 · (Edited)
dull winning USO has spoilt our 2017 and you know it. dull has stolen #1 from Fed's grasp and is now almost a lock to win YE#1. I can see why you're smirking while writing the post cause you know deep down that dull is back in the slam race.

If dull had not vultured USO and not been #1 as he rightly should not be, Fed fans would be thrilled by 2017 but dull has once again ruined it. What a disgusting vulture, can't wait for him to retire. What a nightmare.
 
#33 ·
if Fed loses the slam record due to USO bad back that made 19-16 instead of 20-15 , of course by looking back it will be a mixed year emotionally for fed fans since AO17 was advertised Legacy/GOAT match when in reality and unfortunately Fed bad tweak back made him lost number 1 and USO and perhaps changed the destiny of the goat/slam race for ever. We can also include Murray for ruining the USO draw.
 
#36 ·
I mean I get it is mixed because of "inconsistent" up and downs of winning the big titles, but come on now, this year's performance by both Nadal and Federer is a norm, where the top players don't exactly dominate EVERYTHING, but are solid enough to represent the top.
 
#38 ·
If Federer doesn't win the WTF, it's fine, it's still a great year for Federer.

What Fedtards wouldn't be able to cope with is RAFA winning it.

For years Fedtards have been pointing out at RAFA's lack of a WTF as an argument against him being a GOAT contender. If RAFA finally wins it, Fedtards will be in ruins.
 
#43 ·
Not sure what a fedtard is but if you're referring to Fed fans, then yes post Wimbledon has been depressing to say the least and ofcourse if dull had the same thing happen to him where he was the better player in the year and someone else took #1, they would be disgusted too.

Ofcourse dull winning WTF would be absolutely sickening. A moonballer winning the indoor championship...Good lord, absolutely unthinkable. :facepalm:
 
#40 ·
Monfed, you have received a lot of facepalms for this thread, and maybe you could have worded it differently.
But I absolutely understand where you are coming from.

I am not happy with this post-Wimbledon Fed. He doesn't owe me anything, but he seemed too casual in his approach - mental, physical and gamewise.
Losing Montreal final he was joking around. Okay he would not be crestfallen as he still made the final playing bad. But you lost the match and you are looking happier than Zverev.
I want the focused, frowning, Fed back. I'd prefer him lose a match giving 100%, but not this exho mode Fed. Hopefully he wasn't preparing for Laver cup all this while :grin2:>:)
 
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#44 ·
Because he liked to show something to someone that he does not care for this title. They Fed and Zverev were joking as saying well Roger you will come back many years !!!! That is what they were saying him when played in F before even matches started against Nadal ,Djokovic ,Del Potro in his best years! That is why was Nadal losing to Shapovalov and P McEnroe was first to twett like Nadal 17 years old beat Fed #1 in Miami 2004. But Nadal is not Happy to be part of this story .
 
#47 ·
With 2 Majors and 2 Masters 1000 in his pocket so far, it will have been a great year for the 36 year old Swiss nevertheless. But if Federer is not injured it would likely be a major disappointment for him and his fans not to also win the WTF (Master's Cup) with Djokovic out of action as they have been without question the best indoor players of the last 15 years. It should come as no surprise that they sped up O2 and other events at the end of last year for the first time in years and Murray won everything in sight from the China Open to Shanghai to the WTF, while a seemingly listless or jaded Novak Djokovic was beaten and RAFA and Roger were out of action. What will they do this year?




Murray won the significantly sped up 2016 WTF with Federer sidelined. 2012-2015 slow-medium finals were won by Djokovic over Federer and Nadal (2013). 2010-2011 - which were rated around 38-40 CPI were won by Federer.

We don't know what story line the ATP wants to use in its sports entertainment at the end of this year. With Sir Andy, Novak, Stan, Kei, and Milos out of action, it's likely either a Fedal ending or a new face. But they have a special tournament just for the new faces, so one would think it will be a Fedal ending, if both play. They will be #1 and #2 at the top of their own groups.

Respectfully,
masterclass
 
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