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Question Why Novak, Roger at ~$110M, Rafa at ~$90M?

The achievements of these players are quite comparable (and very many people do compare them ), so one would expect their collected prize money to be very close as well. Yet Nadal is trailing the other two by approximately twenty million dollars. Can you point out the reason to me?
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Re: Why Novak, Roger at ~$110M, Rafa at ~$90M?

Well Novak has always been a consistent player, even when he wasn't winning titles he was mainly going deep in nearly every tournament he played, where Nadal was bombing out early in many tournaments, so the prize money will add up more for Novak.

In Roger's case most of his slam or masters wins came pre 2012, where the prize money isn't close to as much as it is now, USO alone has basically doubled in prize money since Roger's last title in 2008. Also he's had a much longer career and has achieved for more than Nadal, so he'd obviously earn more prize money than Nadal over the course of his career.
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Re: Why Novak, Roger at ~$110M, Rafa at ~$90M?

Well price money keeps going up every year. Djokovic won most of his slams (tournaments) after Nadal and Federer won the majority of theirs. So he received more money in comparison.
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Roger and Novak are known to make deep runs at most tournaments unlike the overrated grinder who frequently gets upset by unknown journeymen
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Re: Why Novak, Roger at ~$110M, Rafa at ~$90M?

Nadal didn't play 2012 and 2014 USO.
Nadal didn't play 2013 AO.
Nadal didn't play 2009 Wim.
Nadal withdrew from 2016 RG and other slams.
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Re: Why Novak, Roger at ~$110M, Rafa at ~$90M?

Isn't there like US Open Series bonus which Fed and Djokovic also got extra from there by being dominant in hardcourt in the summer respectively?
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Re: Why Novak, Roger at ~$110M, Rafa at ~$90M?

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Roger and Novak are known to make deep runs at most tournaments unlike the overrated grinder who frequently gets upset by unknown journeymen
This could also be a reference to Nadal his behavior on a certain app
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Re: Why Novak, Roger at ~$110M, Rafa at ~$90M?

Nadal got the bonus when he won Canada, Ciny and US Open in 2013.
Djokovic/Federer might have got the bonus in the past but they never swept the North American Summer.
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Re: Why Novak, Roger at ~$110M, Rafa at ~$90M?

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Nadal got the bonus when he won Canada, Ciny and US Open in 2013.
Djokovic/Federer might have got the bonus in the past but they never swept the North American Summer.
Djokovic and Federer have won slams whilst being married. Nadal has never won a slam as a married man. That's a record that they have over him.
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Re: Why Novak, Roger at ~$110M, Rafa at ~$90M?

Tio has his share surely.

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Nadal got the bonus when he won Canada, Ciny and US Open in 2013.
Djokovic/Federer might have got the bonus in the past but they never swept the North American Summer.
Djokovic and Federer have won slams whilst being married. Nadal has never won a slam as a married man. That's a record that they have over him.
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Re: Why Novak, Roger at ~$110M, Rafa at ~$90M?

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The achievements of these players are quite comparable (and very many people do compare them ), so one would expect their collected prize money to be very close as well. Yet Nadal is trailing the other two by approximately twenty million dollars. Can you point out the reason to me?
The prize money for HC slams/WTF/Masters + Wimbledon (the majority of Federer's and Novak's titles) was and still is considerably higher than for Nadal's RG & clay masters.

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Re: Why Novak, Roger at ~$110M, Rafa at ~$90M?

Because of the following reasons.

1)WTF pays a hell load of money to champion.
2) Some of the highest paying tournaments (at m1000 level) are HC tournaments, and specially the Asian swing pays a lot of money in relation to the event...where Djokovic and Murray have had a lot of success in the later years...

Federer has won the most money because of many WTFs, and also because objetively he has won the most pverall titles and slams.
His total prize money is only a bit inflated compared to rafa (considering rafa has won about 85% of slams and titles that Roger has achieved however prize money of federer is not 15% higher but 21-22% higher than Rafa due to Roger being more succesful on WTF and HC tournaments which usually have inflated prize money for being of the category.) Rafa is more successful in Tournaments placed in Europe which usually have lower price money for given category (with the exception of WTF)compared to Tournaments in Asia and sometimes the US.

Djokovic and Murray also have more inflation in Prize money because they have been more sucessful in later years.. most Roger titles were in 04-09... and most rafa titles 05-11... however Djokovic titles are 80%+ from 2011-2016... he won 11 of 12 slams in this period and reached 18/21 Smal finals in the same period... won 4/5 wtf in that period and won 25/30 slams aswell.

Murray won all his 3 slams between 2012-2016 reached most of his finals and won most of his titles in the same period which is highly HC sided, he also had the most sucess in ASIA and in tournaments with inflated prize money.




The question should be why murray has insane prize money for a 3 slam winner compared to FED, NAD, DJOK.
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Re: Why Novak, Roger at ~$110M, Rafa at ~$90M?

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Well Novak has always been a consistent player, even when he wasn't winning titles he was mainly going deep in nearly every tournament he played, where Nadal was bombing out early in many tournaments, so the prize money will add up more for Novak.

In Roger's case most of his slam or masters wins came pre 2012, where the prize money isn't close to as much as it is now, USO alone has basically doubled in prize money since Roger's last title in 2008. Also he's had a much longer career and has achieved for more than Nadal, so he'd obviously earn more prize money than Nadal over the course of his career.
Do you mean "far more", I think you are out of the scope with such comment. I think Nadal has achieved about 85% of what Roger has, be it in Slams (rafa has about 85% of slams), although Rafa lacks WTF he has 4 m1000 and olympic gold.

There is clearly the case of inflation of money in HC TOurnaments, because many of those are in ASIA, US and the UK (which I dont consider properly european to be honest). Europeans always been more conservative with prize money.....

Rafa has 85% of sucess but Roger HAs but 20% prize money more... which is explained by the above...


Murray has very inflated money prize, and so does djokovic to a lesser extent...
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Because of the following reasons.

1)WTF pays a hell load of money to champion.
2) Some of the highest paying tournaments (at m1000 level) are HC tournaments, and specially the Asian swing pays a lot of money in relation to the event...where Djokovic and Murray have had a lot of success in the later years...

Federer has won the most money because of many WTFs, and also because objetively he has won the most pverall titles and slams.
His total prize money is only a bit inflated compared to rafa (considering rafa has won about 85% of slams and titles that Roger has achieved however prize money of federer is not 15% higher but 21-22% higher than Rafa due to Roger being more succesful on WTF and HC tournaments which usually have inflated prize money for being of the category.) Rafa is more successful in Tournaments placed in Europe which usually have lower price money for given category (with the exception of WTF)compared to Tournaments in Asia and sometimes the US.

Djokovic and Murray also have more inflation in Prize money because they have been more sucessful in later years.. most Roger titles were in 04-09... and most rafa titles 05-11... however Djokovic titles are 80%+ from 2011-2016... he won 11 of 12 slams in this period and reached 18/21 Smal finals in the same period... won 4/5 wtf in that period and won 25/30 slams aswell.

Murray won all his 3 slams between 2012-2016 reached most of his finals and won most of his titles in the same period which is highly HC sided, he also had the most sucess in ASIA and in tournaments with inflated prize money.




The question should be why murray has insane prize money for a 3 slam winner compared to FED, NAD, DJOK.
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