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No such thing as BIG 4.

There is no big 4. There is only big 3.
Disrespectful of the media to always repeat the same nonsense of big 4 when Wawa won as many slams as Murray.
And he doesnt even remotely belong in the category of Rafa, Fed and Novak.


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Re: No such thing as BIG 4.

Two olympic golds back-to back, WTFs and #1. Wawa wishes.
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Re: No such thing as BIG 4.

I'm one of those tennis fans who don't oppose the idea of Big 4. I actually embrace it.

Yes, Murray may not be on the same level career wise as Nadal, Djokovic, Federer but he was more than capable of challenging them all, winning some GS finals, Masters finals. Also Murray is a former #1, two times olympic champion, he has 11 GS finals and 21 masters finals, WTF title.

He's head and shoulder above anyone bar Nadal, Federer, Djokovic. He deserves to me mentioned among these legends.

The term Big 4 refers to the four most dominant players of the last decade. Murray is one of them. Wawrinka is nowhere near Murray. I don't see the problem.

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Re: No such thing as BIG 4.

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There is no big 4. There is only big 3.
Disrespectful of the media to always repeat the same nonsense of big 4 when Wawa won as many slams as Murray.
And he doesnt even remotely belong in the category of Rafa, Fed and Novak.


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Agree. Murray should never be bundled with the rest of big 3. He simply does not deserve it. It is disrespectful for them, especially for Novak.
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Re: No such thing as BIG 4.

Murray's career outside the Slams is vastly superior.
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Re: No such thing as BIG 4.

He's bit more regular than Wawrinka so it deserves to be considered the superior player (despite being boring as hell to watch), but I basically agree that there's a chasm between him and the other three.
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Re: No such thing as BIG 4.

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I'm one of those tennis fans who don't oppose the idead of Big 4. I actually embrace it.

Yes, Murray may not be on the same level career wise as Nadal, Djokovic, Federer but he was more than capable of challenging them all, winning some GS finals, Masters finals. Also Murray is a former #1, two times olympic champion, he has 11 GS finals and 21 masters finals, WTF title.

He's head and shoulder above anyone bar Nadal, Federer, Djokovic. He deserves to me mentioned among these legends.

The term Big 4 refers to the four most dominant players of the last decade. Murray is one of them. Wawrinka is nowhere near Murray. I don't see the problem.
nobody is talking about wawrinka, it is about murray beeing mention with the other 3. and i do understand why people are not too happy about it. murray is lightyears below them. it is another dimension of tennis.

big 3 it is. olympic medals, wooooooow.
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Re: No such thing as BIG 4.

No such thing as big 3 or big 4. There is Federer and the rest.

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Same old argument when it comes to this ridiculous statement. You don't know what "Big 4" even means obviously and anyone who says Andy isn't part of the group doesn't either. Simple as that.

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Re: No such thing as BIG 4.

Refreshing topic.
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No such thing as big 3 or big 4. There is Federer and the rest.
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Re: No such thing as BIG 4.

4 guys consistently were at the end of slams, semi's were often the top 4 guys and that's why the media coined it. Not as good but worth mentioning. Wawrinka was so late to the party the name had already been used and stuck. Did people get mad when Courier got mentioned as a threat because Sampras Agassi were still in the draw?
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Re: No such thing as BIG 4.

such a fuss lol

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Re: No such thing as BIG 4.

Agreed fully, just look at my sig, however, Murray deserves to be singled out as the greatest challenger to those all time greats and remembered for his constant fight, culminating in the number 1 status eventually.

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