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Tiafoe 8 18.60%
Escobedo 0 0%
Fritz 2 4.65%
Ruud 0 0%
Ofner 3 6.98%
Tsitsipas 0 0%
Paul 0 0%
Berrettini 3 6.98%
Félix Auger-Aliassime 19 44.19%
Kokkinakis 6 13.95%
Opelka 0 0%
Other 2 4.65%
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post #1 of 44 (permalink) Old 09-11-2017, 11:54 PM Thread Starter
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Who deserves the NextGen Finals wildcard?

I know it's still a couple of months away and things could change considerably, but as it stands, who deserves the 8th spot in the #NextGen finals in Milan? For this poll, let's assume Zverev doesn't play it and the automatic qualifiers are Rublev, Khachanov, Shapovalov, Coric, Donaldson, Medvedev and Chung.

Who deserves the final place?

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Frances Tiafoe - 19.6 yrs old - Has been on the fringe of the main tour for a while now and has impressed when given the chance. Pushed Federer to 5 sets at the US Open which followed a good win over in-form Sascha Zverev in Cinci. 4 challenger titles to his name. Popular and exciting player.

Casper Ruud - 18.7 yrs old - Won a challenger tournament at his very first attempt aged 17. Really impressed in his first ATP 500 tournament, going all the way to the semi-finals in Rio and even having a match point against Carreno-Busta. Has had some disappointing results since that early promise.

Tommy Paul - 20.3 yrs old - Made a big splash in Atlanta and Washington - his first main tour level tournaments, with a particularly impressive run to the QFs in what was his first ATP 500 tournament in Washington. Probably made a splash a little too late to compete with the other wildcard potentials.

Matteo Berrettini - 21.4 yrs old - Could possibly be picked with the tournament being in Italy, but wouldn't be deserved for me.

Félix Auger-Aliassime - 17 yrs old - Looks the real deal. By far the youngest player in contention for the finals and has just won his 2nd Challenger title. As a result, he's also become the youngest man since Nadal to break into the world's top 200.

Thanasi Kokkinakis - 21.4 yrs old - Deserves some luck after all of his injuries and has shown he is more than capable of mixing with the big boys - even after his extended time out. Hopefully he leaves his rivals' girlfriends alone though...

Reilly Opelka - 20 yrs old - Was pretty excited when he broke onto the scene in Atlanta/Washington last year, and he continued to post good results for the next few months, including a tough 5 set loss to Goffin at the Australian Open. Since then though his head has seemingly fallen off and he's had some very disappointing results.

My Verdict:

I'm very tempted to say Felix, and would be delighted if he is awarded it, but he's not played a main tour level match yet and could be better suited for next year's event. Kokkinakis would be the most likely wildcard entrant to win the event I think, but he needs the limelight less than the others. Could be a good chance for Ruud to shine - I get the feeling he'll like the spotlight.

Felix or Ruud for me.
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Re: Who deserves the NextGen Finals wildcard?

You know they are probably going to get Italian local Berrettini. But anyway, other than him, it may be Kokkinakis. He's fairly popular now and will attract Australian spectators. I agree about FAA too though but if there is going to be #NextGen Finals again next year then I'll say give him more time.



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Re: Who deserves the NextGen Finals wildcard?

Who's giving it out? The ATP, or Italian organizers? Either way it might go to Berrettini as someone the Italian crowd may want to watch. It'd be cool for Felix to get it, or one of the other highly rated young guys people might want to play this. But my money's on Berrettini, especially if it's up to Italian organizers to choose. It would be the logical choice for them.

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What if a player is just out of the top 100 and found himself having to make a choice between earning more points to attempt to qualify for the Australian Open or taking part in this competition? Could they turn it down? Assuming the player is supported by his federation or whoever and doesn't absolutely need the money, of course. Not an extremely likely scenario, but could happen...
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Re: Who deserves the NextGen Finals wildcard?

I know many people would go with FAA, but like it was mentioned earlier, he's going to be there next year, so I'll go with the Kokkinakis.
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Re: Who deserves the NextGen Finals wildcard?

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What if a player is just out of the top 100 and found himself having to make a choice between earning more points to attempt to qualify for the Australian Open or taking part in this competition? Could they turn it down? Assuming the player is supported by his federation or whoever and doesn't absolutely need the money, of course. Not an extremely likely scenario, but could happen...
It's possible, but there are still two more weeks of Challengers after this. If they think they need all 3 weeks then it's likely not going to happen.

It should also be pointed out that the top 11 in the race to Milan are all in the top 100 right now. So as you said, unlikely but could happen.
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It's possible, but there are still two more weeks of Challengers after this. If they think they need all 3 weeks then it's likely not going to happen.

It should also be pointed out that the top 11 in the race to Milan are all in the top 100 right now. So as you said, unlikely but could happen.
Yes. That would be more likely for the wildcard.

I guess my question stems from the fact that I couldn't care less about the format. They might as well make them play table tennis as far as I'm concerned. I wonder if any player feels the same and would dare turning it down to favor rest or ranking.

To answer the original question, to me Auger-Aliassime is the ultimate next gen not currently in at the moment. But that would mean a wide disparity in age and experience with the others, which might be a little odd. I would have gone with all players born in 1997 or later if it had been my choice, along with the actual rules.
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Re: Who deserves the NextGen Finals wildcard?

The entire point of this tournament is to showcase someone like FAA. I'd be surprised if he wasn't there with the WC if he finishes the season well.
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Re: Who deserves the NextGen Finals wildcard?

FAA, clearly the future of the tour and has been winning CH titles while just barely turned 17. Kokkinakis is a great story and I wish him well. The others just seem like a bunch of nobodies except maybe Tiafoe one day, but he has a piss poor record on tour and a really bad CH finals record. (though seems like he's turned it around recently).

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Re: Who deserves the NextGen Finals wildcard?

Kokkinakis seems the logical choice as the player who could be at the correct ranking to qualify anyway if not for injury and with over a year lost from his time at the correct age this will be his only chance.

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Re: Who deserves the NextGen Finals wildcard?

"Next-gen"

Give wildcard to player that is at an age where most slam winners are already at the very least going deep in slams (or winning).

Sorry but that really does not compute in my mind. Pretty much just give it to FAA, at least anyone over 20 should not be chosen for a WC here imo.
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Re: Who deserves the NextGen Finals wildcard?

I read somewhere that the WC for this event will be decided in a playoff tournament for U21 italian boys. Of course Berrettini will be the favourite to win it.

Edit: I found the article. http://www.livetennis.it/post/269692...card-italiana/

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Re: Who deserves the NextGen Finals wildcard?

ofner or FAA, ofner made r3 wimbledon with no sponsorship after all. he's long overdue to get a wildcard considering he has only started to play professionally at the age of 18
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Re: Who deserves the NextGen Finals wildcard?

Well, we have the answer for it.



I guess the topic is answered.
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Re: Who deserves the NextGen Finals wildcard?

Well that sucks. Obviously it's nice for the home crowd to have someone to cheer, but it feels like a wasted spot to me.
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