Since Safin won the 2005 AO, we have had only 7 different grand slam winners. - MensTennisForums.com
 2Likes
  • 2 Post By Joe Speedboot
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-11-2017, 06:28 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
out_here_grindin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Cedar City,Utah
Posts: 12,505
                     
Since Safin won the 2005 AO, we have had only 7 different grand slam winners.

This is by far the least amount of unique slam winners in any era of 50 slams since the open era began in 1968.


(2005-2017) 7: Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, Murray, Wawrinka, Del Potro and Cilic.

(1992-2005) 22: Safin, Federer, Gaudio, Roddick, Ferrero, Agassi, Hewitt, Costa, Johnasson, Ivanisevic, Kuerten, Kafelnikov, Rafter Moya, Korda, Krajicek, Becker, Muster, Bruguera, Edberg, Courier, Sampras

(1979-1992) 16: Edberg, Stich, Courier, Sampras, Gomez, Lendl, Chang, Wilander, Cash, McEnroe, Connors, Noah, Kriek, Teacher, Villas, Borg

(1968-1979) 16: Borg, Connors, Vilas, Tanner, Gerulaitis, Panatta, Edmondonson, Orantes, Ashe, Newcombe, Nastase, Smith, Gimeno, Rosewall, Kodes, Laver


What do you think about his? It certainly can't be good for tennis overall. What will the next 50 slams bring? A return to a more flexible era or will it be dominated by a few again?

Paradorn Srichaphan
Kei Nishikori, Donald Young, Somdev Devvarman, Dustin Brown, Steve Johnson, Yannick Maden
Robert Farah, Clement Reix, Alexander Dolgopolov, Nathan Thompson


Follow college tennis here.. (I am the user Clemson_tennis)

Last edited by out_here_grindin; 09-11-2017 at 06:53 PM.
out_here_grindin is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-11-2017, 06:39 PM
Power Hungry Mod
 
Loosie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Age: 38
Posts: 12,416
                     
Re: Since Safin won the 2005 AO, we have had only 7 different grand slam winners.

Quote:
Originally Posted by out_here_grindin View Post
This is by far the least amount of unique slam winners in any era of 50 slams since the open era began in 1968.


(2005-2017) 7: Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, Murray, Wawrinka, Del Potro and Cilic.

(1992-2005) 21: Safin, Federer, Gaudio, Roddick, Ferrero, Agassi, Hewitt, Costa, Johnasson, Ivanisevic, Kuerten, Kafelnikov, Rafter Moya, Korda, Krajicek, Becker, Muster, Bruguera, Edberg, Courier

(1979-1992) 16: Edberg, Stich, Courier, Sampras, Gomez, Lendl, Chang, Wilander, Cash, McEnroe, Connors, Noah, Kriek, Teacher, Villas, Borg

(1968-1979) 16: Borg, Connors, Vilas, Tanner, Gerulaitis, Panatta, Edmondonson, Orantes, Ashe, Newcombe, Nastase, Smith, Gimeno, Rosewall, Kodes, Laver


What do you think about his? It certainly can't be good for tennis overall. What will the next 50 slams bring? A return to a more flexible era or will it be dominated by a few again?
And only 2 of those winners are 1 time winners. Part of me can't wait to see the big 4 retire because for a bit I think it's going to lead to some unpredictability and some surprise winners of slams. This past US Open showed us that as the bottom half was wide open after Murray withdrew.

It really does ear mark this as a once in lifetime generation. Never before has there been such domination of the big titles by so few. Of course it will be interesting to see if there will ever be an era like that again.
Loosie is online now  
post #3 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-11-2017, 06:42 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 647
                     
Re: Since Safin won the 2005 AO, we have had only 7 different grand slam winners.

Flexible era will return .....

We no longer get neither "Big 4" level of Clay specialist, GC GOAT ,2 HC BOAT at same time nor the demotivated leaderless Gen89-93....

Specially the 2nd one .....

In old era there are depth in top 20 that No.1/ 2/3 seeds are't secure of it's run to victory ...

But like every exception this will be short-lived and balance of power will establish
SMIWM is online now  
 
post #4 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-11-2017, 06:46 PM
When You're On The Poster
 
Johnny Groove's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Earth
Age: 27
Posts: 43,204
                     
Re: Since Safin won the 2005 AO, we have had only 7 different grand slam winners.

Meanwhile, 20 different champions in the WTA since 2005 RG

Follow my Youtube Channel for all my matches
Follow me on IG for the latest news, vids, pics, and memes
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rod Laver
We all choke. That’s all right. We’re not machines. What you have to learn is to accept that fact and not panic. It’s the panic that loses the matches, not the nerves.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Player
The harder you try, the luckier you get.
Johnny Groove is offline  
post #5 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-11-2017, 06:52 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2017
Age: 32
Posts: 1,350
                     
Re: Since Safin won the 2005 AO, we have had only 7 different grand slam winners.

Quote:
Originally Posted by out_here_grindin View Post
This is by far the least amount of unique slam winners in any era of 50 slams since the open era began in 1968.


(2005-2017) 7: Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, Murray, Wawrinka, Del Potro and Cilic.

(1992-2005) 21: Safin, Federer, Gaudio, Roddick, Ferrero, Agassi, Hewitt, Costa, Johnasson, Ivanisevic, Kuerten, Kafelnikov, Rafter Moya, Korda, Krajicek, Becker, Muster, Bruguera, Edberg, Courier

(1979-1992) 16: Edberg, Stich, Courier, Sampras, Gomez, Lendl, Chang, Wilander, Cash, McEnroe, Connors, Noah, Kriek, Teacher, Villas, Borg

(1968-1979) 16: Borg, Connors, Vilas, Tanner, Gerulaitis, Panatta, Edmondonson, Orantes, Ashe, Newcombe, Nastase, Smith, Gimeno, Rosewall, Kodes, Laver


What do you think about his? It certainly can't be good for tennis overall. What will the next 50 slams bring? A return to a more flexible era or will it be dominated by a few again?
I could swear I saw Sampras winning some slams from '92 onward. Guess it was someone else
guitarra and Fedjokodal like this.
Joe Speedboot is online now  
post #6 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-11-2017, 07:01 PM
Just a tennis fan.
 
Awka Liwen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Age: 28
Posts: 2,277
                     
Re: Since Safin won the 2005 AO, we have had only 7 different grand slam winners.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loosie View Post
And only 2 of those winners are 1 time winners. Part of me can't wait to see the big 4 retire because for a bit I think it's going to lead to some unpredictability and some surprise winners of slams. This past US Open showed us that as the bottom half was wide open after Murray withdrew.

It really does ear mark this as a once in lifetime generation. Never before has there been such domination of the big titles by so few. Of course it will be interesting to see if there will ever be an era like that again.
But at the same time many Slams will be decided by massive choking and mindless ballbashing. I don't think 'open' necessarily leads to 'quality'.

I guess each era has its pros and cons.

Awka Liwen is offline  
post #7 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-11-2017, 07:20 PM
Registered User
 
bizzle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: a GOLDEN place with a hint of SILVER
Posts: 493
                     
Re: Since Safin won the 2005 AO, we have had only 7 different grand slam winners.

I get the point and everything but why start with Safin in 05? Starting with Fed's first GS in 03 would make more sense. It would add three more champions to the mix but the point would still remain.

!! AnDy MuRrAy !!


World #1 DOUBLE gold medal winning TRIPLE grand slam champion OBE SPOTYx2
bizzle is offline  
post #8 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-11-2017, 07:26 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 33
                     
Re: Since Safin won the 2005 AO, we have had only 7 different grand slam winners.

It's what happens when 1 skill set dominates all the surfaces. The best at 1 slam can compete at all 4 since they play similar.
Quicksand is offline  
post #9 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-11-2017, 08:34 PM
Let It Rip!
 
zjtennis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 19,806
                     
Re: Since Safin won the 2005 AO, we have had only 7 different grand slam winners.

@Quicksand I do agree to a degree, making me wonder how the game would change if the grass was Sampras-era like or the Clay being similar to when Kuerten or Muster played (at that time which I didn't see them). That being said, at least make the HC's slightly faster (felt AO this year was a good default speed).

Yeah, it would be nice to see a mix of domination with random (which IMO 2014 had) winners. I thought pre-Wimbledon this year actually was a great example of that, but it seemed to have went to a much lower direction after.



--------------------------------------------------

Check Out ATP Live Rankings at OpenEraRankings.com!
zjtennis is offline  
post #10 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-11-2017, 09:46 PM
Registered User
 
Wazza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: London
Age: 23
Posts: 5,434
                     
Re: Since Safin won the 2005 AO, we have had only 7 different grand slam winners.

Big four are close to being done so an era of random mugs winning a slam and then doing nothing for the rest of the year is coming very soon. ATP is handed down the WTA route very soon.
Wazza is offline  
post #11 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-12-2017, 03:13 AM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
out_here_grindin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Cedar City,Utah
Posts: 12,505
                     
Re: Since Safin won the 2005 AO, we have had only 7 different grand slam winners.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bizzle View Post
I get the point and everything but why start with Safin in 05? Starting with Fed's first GS in 03 would make more sense. It would add three more champions to the mix but the point would still remain.
It makes for a more even split with the other 3 eras of the open era

Paradorn Srichaphan
Kei Nishikori, Donald Young, Somdev Devvarman, Dustin Brown, Steve Johnson, Yannick Maden
Robert Farah, Clement Reix, Alexander Dolgopolov, Nathan Thompson


Follow college tennis here.. (I am the user Clemson_tennis)
out_here_grindin is offline  
post #12 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-12-2017, 03:32 AM
When You're On The Poster
 
Johnny Groove's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Earth
Age: 27
Posts: 43,204
                     
Re: Since Safin won the 2005 AO, we have had only 7 different grand slam winners.

Quote:
Originally Posted by zjtennis View Post
@Quicksand I do agree to a degree, making me wonder how the game would change if the grass was Sampras-era like or the Clay being similar to when Kuerten or Muster played (at that time which I didn't see them). That being said, at least make the HC's slightly faster (felt AO this year was a good default speed).

Yeah, it would be nice to see a mix of domination with random (which IMO 2014 had) winners. I thought pre-Wimbledon this year actually was a great example of that, but it seemed to have went to a much lower direction after.
Clay is the same, the ball is different though

Follow my Youtube Channel for all my matches
Follow me on IG for the latest news, vids, pics, and memes
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rod Laver
We all choke. That’s all right. We’re not machines. What you have to learn is to accept that fact and not panic. It’s the panic that loses the matches, not the nerves.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Player
The harder you try, the luckier you get.
Johnny Groove is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the MensTennisForums.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome