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Federer Vs Nadal Career Comparison/ Age adjusted

I will make a comparison up to the year they both turned 31, so that is 2017 (and counting) for Nadal, and 2012 for Fed. The stats for nadal that are still not definitive for this year (because this year is not done bar the slams...) will go in ()


Grand Slam Record

Federer: 17-7
Nadal: 16-7

Total titles

Federer 76
Nadal (74)

Master 1000

Federer 21
Nadal (30)

WTF
Federer 6
Nadal (0)

OSG
Federer 0
Nadal 1

YE1

Federer 5
Nadal 4 ?

Weeks at 1

Federer 302
Nadal 160? (by last week of december)

Total March Wins
Federer 878
Nadal (862)


So as we see they are extremely close and comparable other than fed having considerable advantage in Weeks #1 and WTF, and Rafa having a large gap in Master 1000. There is a chance Rafa could finish the year with the exact amount of total match wins and titles as Fed did in 2012...
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Impressive, interesting stats.
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He's up there with Fed as far as all the important records go
GS, Masters, Oly and total title
In all likelihood will finish YE#1 and will be just one year behind Fed's record of 5

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He's up there with Fed as far as all the important records go
GS, Masters, Oly and total title
In all likelihood will finish YE#1 and will be just one year behind Fed's record of 5
such a shame he was robbed of the 2009 and 2014 YE1's. He was the large favorite until injury each time, particularly in '09 he held a massive lead, and IIRC, he actually would have been YE1 had he won Madrid and Shanghai.
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such a shame he was robbed of the 2009 and 2014 YE1's. He was the large favorite until injury each time, particularly in '09 he held a massive lead, and IIRC, he actually would have been YE1 had he won Madrid and Shanghai.
Nadal dodged cos he wasn't 100% and knows Federer is coming for him in 2009 RG WIMB, similar like Federer in USO this year. There is no shame in it.

He broke his body in AO2009 and Madrid 2009.

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These are very interesting stats. At the same age (31 years), the stats between both these guys are very similar.

Rafa is a lot closer to Roger in many of these stats than I thought. Rafa is significantly behind in WTF and Weeks at #1. Indoor has always been a weakness for Rafa. His injuries have contributed greatly to having less weeks at #1 than Roger.
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2 Amazing legends,i hope some day most of the people will not be so obssesed with the "Nadal Vs Federer" stuff and just enjoy both of the greatest tennis players in the history.
I'm hoping that they will play a lot of years.
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[QUOTE=youziness;39771382]Nadal dodged cos he wasn't 100% and knows Federer is coming for him in 2009 RG

LOL Federer in 5 matches at RG never even took Rafa to 5 sets. In 2009 Djokovic was the main challenger on clay as Federer had dropped off after losing the AO to Rafa. Once Nadal lost early Federer saw his chance and took it.
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Try this Federer vs Nadal career comparison with age adjusted chart with quantified Career Achievements with 'GOAT Points':

1. Go to Ultimate Tennis Statistics - Rankings Chart
2. Choose players: Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal
3. Choose 'Rank Type' 'GOAT Points'
4. Click 'By Age'
5. Click 'Draw Chart'

For impatient, outcome is here: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mc.../FedVsRafa.png
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If you add Novak and Andy to the mix: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mc...aster/Big4.png
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He's up there with Fed as far as all the important records go
GS, Masters, Oly and total title
In all likelihood will finish YE#1 and will be just one year behind Fed's record of 5
such a shame he was robbed of the 2009 and 2014 YE1's. He was the large favorite until injury each time, particularly in '09 he held a massive lead, and IIRC, he actually would have been YE1 had he won Madrid and Shanghai.
2008: was his breakout year winning RG, W and Olympic Gold in singles. Finished YE#1.

2009: was a HUGE miss for Rafa with injuries. He won AO, had a good clay season and lost to Soderling at RG. He missed a huge chance to finish YE#1 and add more weeks at #1.

2010: was the best year of his career winning AO, W and USO and finishing YE#1. Lost WTF final.

2011: he played well winning RG but Novak was even better. Rafa lost W and USO finals to Novak.

2012: was good year winning RG. He should have won the AO where he was up a break in the 5th. Had a dominant clay season. Lost to Rosol at W. Then got injured and lost any chance of being YE#1 and adding more weeks at #1.

2013: had a great year winning RG and USO. Finished YE#1. Lost WTF final.

2014: missed a huge chance to win the AO losing to Wawrinka. He really should have won that. Sampras even traveled to Australia to watch him equal his slam count. Won RG. Got injured again and missed another chance to be YE#1 and add more weeks at #1.

2015: bad year.

2016: bad year.

2017: great year winning RG and USO. Should have won AO being up a break in the 5th set. He should make sure he clinches the YE#1. Cannot let another opportunity go to waste like in 2009, 2012, 2014. Prepare well to win the WTF for the first time.


Rafa missed so many chances to have more YE#1 (2009, 2012, 2014) and add more weeks at #1 due to his injuries.
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These are very interesting stats. At the same age (31 years), the stats between both these guys are very similar.

Rafa is a lot closer to Roger in many of these stats than I thought. Rafa is significantly behind in WTF and Weeks at #1. Indoor has always been a weakness for Rafa. His injuries have contributed greatly to having less weeks at #1 than Roger.
Yes injuries, but way more significantly:

The vast majority of Roger's weeks at #1 were in the years 2204-2007, when his rivals were Roddick, Hewitt, and Saffin, aka "Weak era."
As soon as Rafa then Djok came into their primes it pretty much stopped for Roger.

He also got 11 slams in this time.

The Weak era context puts all these stats into entirely different light.

Rafa did it against Fed and then Djok, Fed did most of it (Slams and weeks at #1) against Roddick, Safin and Hewitt; Djok did it against Fed and Rafa.

The strength of the opponents is a huge factor, but one that will never be considered, unfortunately.
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Yes injuries, but way more significantly:

The vast majority of Roger's weeks at #1 were in the years 2204-2007, when his rivals were Roddick, Hewitt, and Saffin, aka "Weak era."
As soon as Rafa then Djok came into their primes it pretty much stopped for Roger.

He also got 11 slams in this time.

The Weak era context puts all these stats into entirely different light.

Rafa did it against Fed and then Djok, Fed did most of it (Slams and weeks at #1) against Roddick, Safin and Hewitt; Djok did it against Fed and Rafa.

The strength of the opponents is a huge factor, but one that will never be considered, unfortunately.
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Dear god the thread hasn't even halfway started and Nadaltards already flocking with "muh injuries" and "muh weak era", especially comical now Nadal has arguably won a tournament with some incredible weak competition and lots of injuries all around. I'm not blaming him but if you're using these arguments you should consider striking this one as well.

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Dear god the thread hasn't even halfway started and Nadaltards already flocking with "muh injuries" and "muh weak era", especially comical now Nadal has arguably won a tournament with some incredible weak competition and lots of injuries all around. I'm not blaming him but if you're using these arguments you should consider striking this one as well.

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I thought this USO draw will shut all weak era troll.
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