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View Poll Results: Are you more confident Federer's record would stay now than in 2016?
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post #1 of 83 (permalink) Old 09-10-2017, 11:07 PM Thread Starter
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Federer fans, are u more/less confident of the slam record staying than at 2016 end?

The slam differential with Nadal is still 3 and with Djokovic is now upto 7 from 5 last year.

If you were as a Federer fan told at the beginning of the year, that the slam differential with Nadal would stay as it is at 3, would you have taken it?

On one hand, Nadal seems to have to be in much better form than at the end of 2016. On the other hand, he is a year older now, and that always means less chances in the future, and the competition is only bound to increase with Djokoray coming back next year and some young guns like Zverev and Shapovalov rising.

As a Federer fan, I would have been ok if I was told the 3 slam differential would be maintained at the beginning of the year. Despite Nadal's year, I feel more confident that Federer's record wont be broken than I was at 2016 end.
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The AO win for Rogie was HUGE, otherwise it'd be a 1 slam difference now at 18-17, instead of the 19-16 that it actually is!! So far I'm completely satisfied....
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Federer's record was never broken. Nadal can only win another RG at most.
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Re: Federer fans, are u more/less confident of the slam record staying than at 2016 e

I mean, i feel about the same. 3 slams is still surmountable, and with Rafa pretty much guaranteed to win FO for a couple of years (unless someone pulls a Söderling), all it takes are another 2 HC slams to pass Roger. But with Nole and Andy coming back, and the NextGen guys coming through, there's a chance that Fedal don't win anymore slams. If anything, I expect the total to finish at 19-17 or 19-18.

However, I do feel like his legacy is pretty much sealed, and not much can change that.

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The slam differential with Nadal is still 3 and with Djokovic is now upto 7 from 5 last year.

If you were as a Federer fan told at the beginning of the year, that the slam differential with Nadal would stay as it is at 3, would you have taken it?

On one hand, Nadal seems to have to be in much better form than at the end of 2016. On the other hand, he is a year older now, and that always means less chances in the future, and the competition is only bound to increase with Djokoray coming back next year and some young guns like Zverev and Shapovalov rising.

As a Federer fan, I would have been ok if I was told the 3 slam differential would be maintained at the beginning of the year. Despite Nadal's year, I feel more confident that Federer's record wont be broken than I was at 2016 end.
As a Federer fan I actually don't really care much or fear about his legacy or slam count and whether it will be broken.

It will be broken by someone if not in the near future it would be in the distant future and at the end of the day it does not diminish his greatness in my eyes and heart.

He has a place in history no matter what. It does make the rivalry interesting, to witness until they all retire, but doesn't change much for me.
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Re: Federer fans, are u more/less confident of the slam record staying than at 2016 e

In this crazy year,anything can happen next year.
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Re: Federer fans, are u more/less confident of the slam record staying than at 2016 e

I think Rafa has still easily 2 FOs in him. So he'll need one somewhere else to even tie. And that's without Fed adding 1. I definitely see Fed staying ahead.

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This was a huge year for both Nadal and Federer. The AO final was such a significant win for Federer (especially if he continues to maintain the lead in slams). Had he lost that final (was almost 4-2 down in the fifth set), the slam lead would be at 18-17, and that is assuming that he would still win Wimbledon.

Nadal won both the FO and US Open, but didn't make any dent in the slam gap. I honestly don't think he cares about that as much as fans do.
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Re: Federer fans, are u more/less confident of the slam record staying than at 2016 e

I wasn't but I was asking a friend about it and he was fairly sure that it will not get broken.
He thinks that Nadal can win 1 or 2 more but so can Federer. He thinks Rafa will have yet another injury to stop him from some grand slams because of his style of play and the older he gets, the harder it is to recover properly from injuries.

I still am not as certain but I'm staying put for now because the young guns should be more of a factor next year and Djoko and Murray should be back.
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Re: Federer fans, are u more/less confident of the slam record staying than at 2016 e

Feder's slam record is gone. The old man had a great year, but Rafa will win many more. I predicted this some five years ago.
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Re: Federer fans, are u more/less confident of the slam record staying than at 2016 e

At the beginning of the year if I was offered +2 GS for Rafa and Roger then I would've definitely taken it. 2 GS for a 35/36 y.o is a lot rarer/ tougher than for a 30/31 y.o.

I feel sorry for Novak though with the way the slams played out this year. The GS differential between him and his 2 main rivals have both increased by 2. But I wouldn't put it past him to close that gap again in the near future
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Re: Federer fans, are u more/less confident of the slam record staying than at 2016 e

Nadal has many years ahead of him, now players continue playing at a high level until late in their 30's.

He will probably beat Federer record.
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Re: Federer fans, are u more/less confident of the slam record staying than at 2016 e

There's the other good thing about this as a Federer fan, which is that barring a major injury, Federer will now surely play another 2, may be even 3 years, just to make sure he does his bit to ensure that he's ahead in the slam count . If Rafa had withered away, which seemed a possibility at the end of 2016, retirement may have been looming much sooner for Federer.
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Re: Federer fans, are u more/less confident of the slam record staying than at 2016 e

17-14 has become 19-16, and H2H went from 11-23 to 14-23.

This season is a plus for Federer, although I did not expect Nadal to also win 2 Slams in 2017 at all.

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At the beginning of the year if I was offered +2 GS for Rafa and Roger then I would've definitely taken it. 2 GS for a 35/36 y.o is a lot rarer/ tougher than for a 30/31 y.o.

I feel sorry for Novak though with the way the slams played out this year. The GS differential between him and his 2 main rivals have both increased by 2. But I wouldn't put it past him to close that gap again in the near future


Djokovic is done, dunzo, finito, terminado. Nadal might win three majors next year. It's a big possibility. Federer had a greaty year, but this was a fluke year for him really. No way Federer plays as well next year.
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