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Rain washed out the evening session but tomorrow's scheduling is just pathetic at Cincinnati. RAFA-Ramos and Thug/Karlovic matches do not begin until 1 pm (Are you effing out of your mind?!?!?) and then the winners play their match at 9 pm on the same day. Why not start the previous day's matches which got washed out at the very beginning (11 am local time) instead? RAFA has already been a victim of improper scheduling many times this year and this is no different.

P.S. This is not a ruins thread. Its about general bias against certain ATP players who suffers and has to work extra hard if they want to win the title.

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Rain washed out the evening session but tomorrow's scheduling is just pathetic at Cincinnati. RAFA-Ramos and Thug/Karlovic matches do not begin until 1 pm (Are you effing out of your mind?!?!?) and then the winners play their match at 9 pm on the same day. Why not start the previous day's matches which got washed out at the very beginning (11 am local time) instead? RAFA has already been a victim of improper scheduling many times this year and this is no different.

P.S. This is not a ruins thread. Its about general bias towards ATP players who suffers and has to work extra hard if they want to win the title.
If you look at the next-day schedule after a rained-out session, the rain-delayed matches are never the first match up. They're always the second match on the schedule. This is true for every single ATP and ITF tournament. Yes, it sucks to have to play two matches in one day, but since the vast majority of tennis matches are at the mercy of Mother Nature (in other words, no retractable roof), it's reality. I assume the logic is that the players get stuck waiting around until fairly late just in case the rain lets up, so it's hard to get back to the hotel, unwind, fall asleep, and then wake up early to play the first match of the day.
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Ka.Pliskova should be the one complaining, that's seriously a candidate for the worst scheduling in history, she plays her R3 which has just played 3 games at 1:00 P.M, then plays QF at 3:30 P.M. against an opponent who finished her R3 today. If I were her I'd definitely go for an explanation from the tournament director ASAP.

As for Nadal, as stated above rain delayed matches are always second, RAFA would probably be more irritated if he had to play at 11:00 tomorrow since he was waiting until 11:30 P.M. today and probably slept around 1 or 2 A.M. This is so that they can get enough sleep, and Kyrgios has to face the same scheduling, so it's totally fair. Second match at 9 P.M also means relatively suitable rest between matches.
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Ka.Pliskova should be the one complaining, that's seriously a candidate for the worst scheduling in history, she plays her R3 which has just played 3 games at 1:00 P.M, then plays QF at 3:30 P.M. against an opponent who finished her R3 today. If I were her I'd definitely go for an explanation from the tournament director ASAP.
Wow, usually the doubles guys get shafted with scheduling like that because: 1) doubles players always get the short end of the scheduling stick, and 2) it's assumed that dubs isn't as exhausting, which is true. Singles players rarely get screwed like that, and I have never ever seen a number one player get crapped on with such sh*tty scheduling. Maybe Pliskova requested it? Nah, what player in her right mind would ask for matches to be scheduled almost back to back like that??
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ATP should refuse from hosting tournaments combined with WTA. ATP won't lose anything, but WTA will. It will be fair.
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ATP should refuse from hosting tournaments combined with WTA. ATP won't lose anything, but WTA will. It will be fair.
Both tours are dire atm, so i dont think so.

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Rain washed out the evening session but tomorrow's scheduling is just pathetic at Cincinnati. RAFA-Ramos and Thug/Karlovic matches do not begin until 1 pm (Are you effing out of your mind?!?!?) and then the winners play their match at 9 pm on the same day. Why not start the previous day's matches which got washed out at the very beginning (11 am local time) instead? RAFA has already been a victim of improper scheduling many times this year and this is no different.

P.S. This is not a ruins thread. Its about general bias towards ATP players who suffers and has to work extra hard if they want to win the title.
lol, he is second cause he stayed late, you cant possibly schedule someone that stayed latest the previous day first.
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If you look at the next-day schedule after a rained-out session, the rain-delayed matches are never the first match up. They're always the second match on the schedule. This is true for every single ATP and ITF tournament.
This is what I am talking about. Doesn't make any sense whatsoever. What if it rains again today in the evening? Organizers are pretty biased towards the WTA.
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lol, he is second cause he stayed late, you cant possibly schedule someone that stayed latest the previous day first.
He stayed late?

They didn't even step into the stadium. There is logically ZERO reason to delay the previous day's match involving of the most popular player (if not the most) ever to start it after a WTA match.

Canada masters does it perfectly. They alternate ATP and WTA tourneys every year between Montreal/Toronto.
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Djokovic' Rome final was his third match in 26 hours, and they could play their third Cinci match in 26 hour too.

Even if top players were fresh enough to play such final, they would never try their best risking an injury before the slam (RG/USO) next week.

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He stayed late?

They didn't even step into the stadium. There is logically ZERO reason to delay the previous day's match involving of the most popular player (if not the most) ever to start it after a WTA match.

Canada masters does it perfectly. They alternate ATP and WTA tourneys every year between Montreal/Toronto.
No. Don't forget that the WTA has their final a day before the ATP (Saturday). So they have to finish the WTA matches.

I will add Canada Masters is very special in that they have two major hubs of economic interest to divide the attention. They won't do that anywhere else.

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works out perfectly for Ralph. Thug will be tired, while Ralph wont be as he's never tired. So Ralph will effectively get a tired thug.

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lol, he is second cause he stayed late, you cant possibly schedule someone that stayed latest the previous day first.
It's like people have their memories scrubbed after each previous rain-affected tournament, so everything has to be explained all over again.
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works out perfectly for Ralph. Thug will be tired, while Ralph wont be as he's never tired. So Ralph will effectively get a tired thug.
Is Kyrgios even fit to play? He barely moved against Goffin and I still have no idea how he scraped by Dolgopolov. Unless the Dog was injured himself or tanking blatantly.

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I think the core problem is that Cincinnati is a 1 week tournament, where the top players don't start to play until the 3rd day. That's 5 matches in 5 days. Any slip/delay and you face a scheduling nightmare.
And however you try to fix it, some players would be crying foul.
And good luck if that happens to one of the top dogs who is not the quiet type.
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