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Toni Nadal: Federer and Djokovic have been helped by Rafa's injuries

Toni Nadal: "Anche Federer e Djokovic sono stati aiutati dagli infortuni di Rafa" - UBITENNIS

Toni speaks after Rafa returns to No.1
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Toni Nadal is happy for Rafa's return to top of the world rankings, but at the same time is aware that this position has to be further affirmed.

With the return of Rafael Nadal on the tennis throne, another page in the history of this sport was written.However,the news, albeit enthusiastic for Majorcan fans and for all fans of the racquet, has not been reckoned, as if he was still expecting a further confirmation from the Spanish, a testimony that he is currently the strongest Of 2017. Of course, there is still the final part of the season to play, a last Slam to be debated, and Nadal's colleagues (Djokovic, Murray, Wawrinka, Federer and today Nishikori ) have also been involved. Restrained by various injuries.

Toni Nadal is aware of this and in fact has told the IB3 in Majorca: "It is clear that we are very happy. We returned number one after three years and so many problems.Federer's absence for injury is a sin as well as that of Murray. These injuries favored the return to number one, but Federer and Djokovic also benefited from Rafa's injuries."Rafa's uncle coach also stated:"Of course,it was not one of our goals to be number one, the idea was to compete well and to make it difficult was already the case.Number one is an extra motivation.He is always motivated enough, but being number one gives something more. "
Winning Cincinnati would greatly increase the gap between Federer (1,320 points) and, according to Toni, the goal for now is one:"Now you have to bring home victories. We must try to play well in Cincinnati, but above all make a great US Open, which is the main goal from here at the end of the season. "


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Re: Toni Nadal: Federer and Djokovic have been helped by Rafa's injuries

More bitterness expected from the Nadal camp as Nadal drifts further away from the slam record and they're both heading towards the end of their careers.

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Re: Toni Nadal: Federer and Djokovic have been helped by Rafa's injuries

Pointless statement. Obviously, all players are affected by the level and participation of all other players.
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Nadal suffers Kohler’s disease and was close to retirement in the end of 2005. Nonetheless, his doctors found a solution and Nike created special shoes for him. It helped Nadal to nullify the effect of that disease, but caused problems with his knees. If you really understand what Kohler’s disease is about, you should be shocked of the fact that Nadal won so much.

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Re: Toni Nadal: Federer and Djokovic have been helped by Rafa's injuries

i don't really see how anyone can have a problem with what he said.
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Injuries are often caused by a players game style. Rafa's won him many tournaments and slams, but also probably caused most of his injuries.
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Well, it's obviously true. Undebatable.

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Re: Toni Nadal: Federer and Djokovic have been helped by Rafa's injuries

Now that's a sweet thing to mention, injuries helping other player's careers.

Well, this is the inevitable out of place statement Toni makes once in a while. Nothing you would ever hear from Rafa himself.

In a couple of months: 'The amount of HC tournaments has a direct impact on middle east geopolitics'.

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Now that's a sweet thing to mention, injuries helping other player's careers.

Well, this is the inevitable out of place statement Toni makes once in a while. Nothing you would ever hear from Rafa himself.

In a couple of months: 'The amount of HC tournaments has a direct impact on middle east geopolitics'.
well, what he said is of course undeniably true.

Rafa's injury even aided Roger's return back to #1. Thats a stint he never would have had otherwise in 2009.

I think that's unprecedented, no? How often does a #1 lose its place due to an injury?
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Re: Toni Nadal: Federer and Djokovic have been helped by Rafa's injuries

What injuries? The idea that this whining adolescent has had some kind of injury-plagued career is a baseless myth. Yeah, he's had to miss the odd tournament here & there and occasionally had to take a month or two off - so what? That's entirely normal for most tennis players' - most sportsmen's - careers. Jimmy Connors, to take just one example, had a very similar record, but nobody talks about his injury-plagued career, probably because Connors wasn't such a whining little bitch about it & didn't have Don Toni to act as his creepy mouthpiece. An injury-plagued career is a career that is adversely affected by injuries, derailed, stultified, or ended by injury, e.g., Safin, Del Potro, Nishikori, Monfils, Tsonga, Haas, Hewitt, hell, even Murray have been worse affected by injury than Nadal. Nadal has played the vast majority of slams available to him and usually gone deep and he's completed the clay season, the most important part of the year for him, nearly every year. That is not an injury-plagued career. His injuries have been an irritant to his career rather than a threat to it and it's about time people stopped pretending otherwise.

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Well, it's obviously true. Undebatable.

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Nadal not meeting Nole at AO and Wimby is what helps Nadal maintain a FO skewed slam H2H. So how exactly does this help Nole?
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Nadal not meeting Nole at AO and Wimby is what helps Nadal maintain a FO skewed slam H2H. So how exactly does this help Nole?
Never even mentioned WB. It helps Nole because its less resistance, not having Nadal competing.
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well, what he said is of course undeniably true.

Rafa's injury even aided Roger's return back to #1. Thats a stint he never would have had otherwise in 2009.

I think that's unprecedented, no? How often does a #1 lose its place due to an injury?
I know, but still. I don't imagine Rafa being like 'you know, it helped that Roger and Novak are injured, but please do remember they leeched points out of my injuries as well!'.

No need to balance injury benefits, I think. Just be happy for your nephew.
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What injuries? The idea that this whining adolescent has had some kind of injury-plagued career is a baseless myth. Yeah, he's had to miss the odd tournament here & there and occasionally had to take a month or two off - so what? That's entirely normal for most tennis players' - most sportsmen's - careers. Jimmy Connors, to take just one example, had a very similar record, but nobody talks about his injury-plagued career, probably because Connors wasn't such a whining little bitch about it & didn't have Don Toni to act as his creepy mouthpiece. An injury-plagued career is a career that is adversely affected by injuries, derailed, stultified, or ended by injury, e.g., Safin, Del Potro, Nishikori, Monfils, Tsonga, Haas, Hewitt, hell, even Murray have been worse affected by injury than Nadal. Nadal has played the vast majority of slams available to him and usually gone deep and he's completed the clay season, the most important part of the year for him, nearly every year. That is not an injury-plagued career. His injuries have been an irritant to his career rather than a threat to it and it's about time people stopped pretending otherwise.
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It's most annoying to me that whenever the Uncle refers to his nephew, he says 'we' as if they're one. Rafa Nadal isnt even a human being of his own according to his uncle. He only exist together with him.
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