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What rank is required for a tennis player to make a decent/comfortable living?

What is the rank required for a tennis player to a make a comfortable living without needing a part-time job to pay the bills? Is it top 100? or top 500? What does it take to break in to this group?(bonus question)

Decent/ comfortable living would be 80-100k per year in a place like Virginia where a second job is optional.

Obviously, people like Federer, Nadal, Djokovic Murray are living luxurious lives so not them.

Someone like Shapavolov(before his Montreal run).

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I think the big break point is whether or not a player automatically qualifies for the Grand Slams. Stated another way, a top 100 ranking probably accomplishes what you were saying.
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Re: What rank is required for a tennis player to make a decent/comfortable living?

Qualifying for Masters on a semi-regular basis would be handy as well.
This varies in number, but normally about 64 qualify.
But as Chip said, Top 100 is probably enough to get some sort of decent living out of it.

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I heard that being a regular Top100 can give you no worries for the future.
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10 years top 100 would mean 5 million dollars in price money. that's more than enough even after interest and tax.
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top 100 you will almost certainly be quite comfortable (assuming you are regularly within), I'd say you could live okay under top 150

again this is under the assumption that you are capable of maintaining this sort of ranking long term. There are plenty of journeymen in tennis who dipped in and out of the top 100 over the years who have a a surprisingly high career income just from prize money, and that's not factoring other things they may do on the side (even a # 100 player can get paid some of their expenses for wearing a logo, and a 'journeyman' in all liklihood will do other things in their free time to make money, i.e. coaching)


anyone under the top 100 regularly for years will make good money, and if you're dedicated you could make okay money a bit beyond that. But understand this is under the assumption that you're not making crazy decisions to constantly fly across the world or pay a fancy coach
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Depends on the lifestyle you wish to live but top 500 to break even, top 250 and up to really profit

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TOP 70 I'd say given tennis players have to spend a lot of money on plane tickets, hotel rooms, equipment, their team, etc. It's not only about what you make but also what you spend. Another person making the same amount of $ would live much more comfortably than a tennis player.
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they get plenty in endorsements especially if in a country with just a few top guys if that country isn't 3rd world with economic issues
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High enough to be a a favourite in some matches where you can bet against you. Top 500 would be good I think.
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I guess Top 500 would do a decent living [80k to 100k dollars] , this is including the endorsements and prize money.

A top 100 regular should be luxurious.

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High enough to be a a favourite in some matches where you can bet against you. Top 500 would be good I think.
When I see the amount of money, being matched on betfair, for challenger matches and ATP 250s it is very likely that players are strongly tempted to fix in one way or another.

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Top 100 I guess.

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Depends on the lifestyle you wish to live but top 500 to break even, top 250 and up to really profit
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I guess Top 500 would do a decent living [80k to 100k dollars] , this is including the endorsements and prize money.

A top 100 regular should be luxurious.
Not at all. Are you guys just making numbers up?

A top 500 level player doesn't make ends meet. In fact, he's either indebted or being financed by someone else, be it an institution or his own family.

It has been well established by several players that if you travel with a coach you need to be ranked within the top 100 or 150 at the very most to even begin to sustain your expenses in the circuit.

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"If you’re in the top 100 in the rankings and you travel with just one trainer, you’ll end up with a modest surplus of USD 20-30,000 a year," reckons Ukrainian Sergiy Stakhovsky, a member of the ATP Player Council, and one of the active leaders in the movement for fair prize money.
"After the Masters tournaments in Indian Wells and Miami, I was around 5,000 in the red," says Stakhovsky. "And, basically, there are no cheap hotels in Indian Wells. The cheapest room costs USD 144 a night. Prize money is also taxed at 38%. So, you arrive there at least four days before the tournament starts. You spend a minimum of three and a half weeks in the States. You pay for a trainer (weekly salary) plus food, hotel… And what about flights?"

"I mainly fly economy", says Stakhovsky. "We can’t actually buy tickets early. And you can’t buy cheap tickets either. We often buy them on the day we’re flying. We’re talking about different figures again. Last year 85,000 [translator: not sure if this is euros or dollars given that amounts were quoted in euros previous paragraph.] went on tickets alone. I earned USD 428,000. We deduct, on average, 30% from this amount for tax. These are the sums involved."

Stakhovsky:"If you travel with a coach as a top100 player, you earn 20-30.000$/year"


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I guess Top 500 would do a decent living [80k to 100k dollars] , this is including the endorsements and prize money.

A top 100 regular should be luxurious.
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