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Why Cilic has a slam while Berdych not?

Both play a very similar game. Berdych just has that one Wimbeldon final, while Cilic has a slam.

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Re: Why Cilic has a slam while Berdych not?

Because one played Nadal in a slam final, whilst the other played Nishikori.
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Re: Why Cilic has a slam while Berdych not?

Cilic played Bendikori in the final while Berdych played GOATdal.

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Re: Why Cilic has a slam while Berdych not?

Looks like people have already answered this pretty much.
But Cilic, even though he isn't an all time great, isn't a pu$$y either.
Tomas probably enjoys getting cucked, since he got cucked by the big 4 for his whole career.
I remember him losing a tie break to Murray in Paris last year, from 6:0 up...
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Re: Why Cilic has a slam while Berdych not?

Mainly because Berdych is a mental mug. Besides that Cilic has a better serve and is a much better mover. Otherwise Berdych is stronger, especially on the FH side.

I'd definitely rate Berdych as the more talented player and vastly prefer his game since he has much more beautiful strokes. Together with Nando he's the "older" player I want to win a slam the most, but it's probably over now with him being heavily declined...

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Re: Why Cilic has a slam while Berdych not?

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Because one played Nadal in a slam final, whilst the other played Nishikori.
You fail to mention Cilic also straight setted Fraud in the SF and also Birdshit himself in the QF.

Truth be told about Birdshit, he just ain't GS material. Not good enough.
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Re: Why Cilic has a slam while Berdych not?

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You fail to mention Cilic also straight setted Fraud in the SF and also Birdshit himself in the QF.

Truth be told about Birdshit, he just ain't GS material. Not good enough.
Didn't Berdych beat Fraud and Djokovic that Wimbledon.
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Re: Why Cilic has a slam while Berdych not?

Cilic peak level > Berdych peak level.
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Re: Why Cilic has a slam while Berdych not?

Several factors may/may not come into play:

1)One could say Berdych was mentally fatigued after beating both Djokovic and Federer in quick succession.
2)Berdych has a mental block against Nadal
3)Cilic peaked at the right time and sustained his peak, while Berdych GOATed in the QF's and SF's and reverted to Berdshit.
4)Nadal in a Wimbledon final vs. Zombiekori who had worn himself out is no contest.
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Re: Why Cilic has a slam while Berdych not?

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Both play a very similar game. Berdych just has that one Wimbeldon final, while Cilic has a slam.

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Cilic have in general more strong basic game/weapons.

But that is not reason for his slam crown. When he won it, he was in supreme killer mode, no one could stop him. Never saw him playing on that beast mode... and Berdych did not produce something like that ever...
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Re: Why Cilic has a slam while Berdych not?

I guess also extend this to career achievements, too -- Cilic has the same Masters as Berdych (1), more Slams (1), and more titles (16?). Berdych for his consistency only has 13. I will say Cilic has some fire on him when needed (the sometimes for others, the irritating "Care" shout ) and also the serve to bail himself out. Also at times it seemed Cilic is willing to go for his shots more, I feel.



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Re: Why Cilic has a slam while Berdych not?

Because Cilic went into beast mode one tournament
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Re: Why Cilic has a slam while Berdych not?

Because Berdshit is a mental midget. Cilic had one opportunity, he seized it. Berdych choked hard on the numerous occasions he had.

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Re: Why Cilic has a slam while Berdych not?

Because Wimby'10 had stronger field than USO'14. Berdych had to beat all the Big 3 to have the title, whereas Cilic had to beat Federer only.
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Re: Why Cilic has a slam while Berdych not?

Cilic is a better server, better returner and has better movement which means that his peak level is higher.
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