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Is it the big money that is ruining the show? Are players too serious on the court and do they forget they are out there first - and most important - to perform?
Peform what? Tennis to a high quality or antics to keep the crowd amused and the umpire pissed off?
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Seniors showcase their aching limbs better than the young millionaire maestros:

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who writes this fucking garbage? The only thing i can assume from this type of stuff is that people were really, REALLY stupid and/or on drugs in the 1970s. It's like, go to the circus and watch the clowns if that's the kind of entertainment you prefer.
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Seniors showcase their aching limbs better than the young millionaire maestros:

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just remember charity event at IW last year
the young millionaire maestros performed a really entertaining show

e.g. Marat and Andy's tiebreak and mixed doubles


but the author's right, at the moment we need more charismatic players

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Seniors showcase their aching limbs better than the young millionaire maestros:

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I disagree with this statement:

"Are players too serious on the court and do they forget they are out there first - and most important - to perform? "

The players are there to win tennis matches first.

The author is saying that the current crop aren't colorful enough to suit him but I think in reality in the old days there wasn't constant colorful antics. That happened once in a while and now people are remembering that as if the players were constantly putting on a show. They weren't. We have incidences now too once in a while. Remember Keifer throwing his racket at Grosjean? Remember Berdych shushing the crowd???

Personally I do see lots of charisma in tennis right now. Just because there is no whiney brat boy like Connors or McEnroe does not mean there is no charisma. I never thought Connors or McEnroe had true charisma....they were brats and they took one's attention....but that's not charisma. Borg had the charisma and he was quiet on court and a gentleman.

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who writes this fucking garbage? The only thing i can assume from this type of stuff is that people were really, REALLY stupid and/or on drugs in the 1970s. It's like, go to the circus and watch the clowns if that's the kind of entertainment you prefer.
Another question I would have is does this mean the author thought that Laver and Borg were boring? So to him was it more important to have someone throw tantrums or more important to win tournaments ?

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Agree that Connors,JMac, Nastase,and Tiriac would act like petulant kids sometimes. I enjoyed watching Borg,Vilas,Smith and that caliber so much more. Isn't it entertaining enough to watch tactics and incredible shots?

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I get tired of these nostalgic "good old days" types of articles where people whine about how great yesteryear was with wooden rackets, most players serving and volleying, and the puerile antics of Nastase and Connors, etc. were celebrated. It's a bygone era. Time to let the 60s and 70s go and enjoy the good old days of today, which has just as many colorful characters, they just havve a different way of expressing themselves.

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I can guarantee you that during the mcenroe and connors era writers were waxing nostalgic about the gentlemen who used to play the game. And when the next wave of brats comes along, people will be longing for this era to be back.Combination of human nature and nothing-else-to-write-about-so-let's-whine-about-lack-of-characters syndrome

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Agree that Connors,JMac, Nastase,and Tiriac would act like petulant kids sometimes. I enjoyed watching Borg,Vilas,Smith and that caliber so much more. Isn't it entertaining enough to watch tactics and incredible shots?

Yes, and if someone were to throw tantrums all the time that would get boring any way. I don't think people necesarilly liked McEnroe and Connors when they were in their prime. It's only looking back through rose colored glasses that people are missing those antics.

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These kind of articles are always popping up. Connors and McEnroe were characters, but that schtick would get old very fast. Look at John McEnroe now on the seniors tour wheeling out his angry routine like a performing seal because otherwise the fans won't be happy. They expect a tantrum but it's all so forced and rehearsed now. He's pushing 50 and screaming about line calls and linemen. It's tragic.

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The author is saying that the current crop aren't colorful enough to suit him but I think in reality in the old days there wasn't constant colorful antics. That happened once in a while and now people are remembering that as if the players were constantly putting on a show. They weren't. We have incidences now too once in a while. Remember Keifer throwing his racket at Grosjean? Remember Berdych shushing the crowd???

Personally I do see lots of charisma in tennis right now. Just because there is no whiney brat boy like Connors or McEnroe does not mean there is no charisma. I never thought Connors or McEnroe had true charisma....they were brats and they took one's attention....but that's not charisma. Borg had the charisma and he was quiet on court and a gentleman.
There wasn't constant antics - mostly it was great tennis...as today. People just play up the misbehavior because it sells.

But I disagree that Mac and Connors didn't have charisma, and another post where you said that they weren't liked. Are you old enough to remember those days or are you just basing your opinion on what you've read and what others have said? I did watch them in their prime, and they definitely did have charisma. And they were very much loved...or hated. And that's good. Good guys vs. bad guys always creates excitement. Its the basis of most books and films...and sport.
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But I disagree that Mac and Connors didn't have charisma, and another post where you said that they weren't liked. Are you old enough to remember those days or are you just basing your opinion on what you've read and what others have said? I did watch them in their prime, and they definitely did have charisma. And they were very much loved...or hated. And that's good. Good guys vs. bad guys always creates excitement. Its the basis of most books and films...and sport.
I saw enough of them to know they were boorish buffoons, albeit talented boorish buffons.

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I saw enough of them to know they were boorish buffoons, albeit talented boorish buffons.
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