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TMC surface

The "imaginative" Spanish press says that it's similar to Madrid, and since I haven't still seen anywhere else, I'll post it here.

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundodeporte...7&t=1163185377
El cambio de pista también está de su lado: si el año pasado se quejaba de que la superficie creada por Gerflor-Taraflex para el estadio shanghainés de Qi Zhong era demasiado rápida, se mostró satisfecho con la construida por la firma española Greenset para este torneo. "Es mucho mejor que la del año pasado, es una pista como la de Madrid, prácticamente igual, o sea que bien. Lo mejor es que salta parecido, ni lenta ni tampoco rapidísima: rapidilla, normal, está bien", valoró.

The change of surface will also be on his side: if last year he complaint that the surface created by Gerflor-Taraflex for the Shanghai Stadium in Qi Zhong was to fast, for this tournament he was satisfied with the surface put by the Spanish firm Greenset. "It's much better than last year's, it is a court like Madrid, almost equal. A good point is that it bonces similarly, neither slow nor super-fast: quick-ish, normal, it's good"

He also says that (as usual) Federer is the overwhelming favorite, that he feels physically ok and that the Chinese people are very nice and effusive.

Anybody has an idependent confirmation?
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Actually, I read somewhere here that Federer also compared it to Madrid.

And someone posted in Andy's forum that he said he thinks the surface is good for his game, a little faster than the average HC, so I dunno
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http://www.shanghaidaily.com/art/200..._new_court.htm

Players like new court
Zhou Zuyi
2006-11-11

PLAYERS have given their stamp of approval to the newly laid hardcourt surface at the suburban Qizhong Tennis Center.

Last year, players and coaches had heavily criticized the surface.

Players said that it hampered movement on the court during matches and posed injury risks to them, forcing the Masters Cup organizers to relay it earlier this year.

Croat Ivan Ljubicic said yesterday that it was a better surface than last year's.

"The material used this year is more friendly to spins and makes it possible for us to move better," Ljubicic said after trying out the center hall court for three days.

"In fact, it is similar to surfaces adopted at most of the events on the tour."

Ljubicic was among the players who had complained about the court being too sticky last year.

Rafael Nadal's uncle Tony Nadal, who is also his coach, had lambasted the ATP last year for "being unfair" to claycourt players like his nephew for their choice of fast but low bouncing carpet.

Nadal eventually withdrew from the tournament last year over injury fears.

But the Spaniard, ranked second in the world after Roger Federer, gave the thumbs up after testing the court on Thursday.

"The ball is bouncing much higher this time. More importantly, I can move smoothly on the new surface. I don't have anything to complain now.

"Indeed, it even feels like, in some way, the surface at the Madrid Masters. That is my favorite venue,'' Nadal said after hitting couple of balls here.

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He also says that (as usual) Federer is the overwhelming favorite,
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I read that it's similar to Vienna.


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Hey, I guess it's tiring that he keeps repeating it, but it's not as if there was the slightest doubt about that (I guess if I were him I wouldn't say in each one of my interviews that the sky is blue, except in RG, but it's his prerogative ).

He says "If somebody just won the USO, Tokio, Madrid and Basel and he's the #1 of the world, we won't be giving the favorite tag to somebody else, will we?", which sounds sort of reasonable, doesn't it?
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Good Stuff.

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i want a court like Minsk for the next time
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Funny because I read elsewhere it was taraflex.

If it's greenset indeed, it's the same one used in Metz and Madrid (and similar to the one used in Vienna).

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Greenset is a very good surface. It's where I play my best too.

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Looks like we will just have to wait and see...

...But I did read a report today that suggested the surface is almost like a hybrid in between the surfaces at Queens and Rome
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Funny because I read elsewhere it was taraflex.

If it's greenset indeed, it's the same one used in Metz and Madrid (and similar to the one used in Vienna).
I would be very surprised if it is greenset as one of the official sponsors is Gerflor:

http://www.masters-cup.com/3/sponsors/

http://www.gerflor.com/en/institution/zactu.asp

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Hey, I guess it's tiring that he keeps repeating it, but it's not as if there was the slightest doubt about that (I guess if I were him I wouldn't say in each one of my interviews that the sky is blue, except in RG, but it's his prerogative ).

He says "If somebody just won the USO, Tokio, Madrid and Basel and he's the #1 of the world, we won't be giving the favorite tag to somebody else, will we?", which sounds sort of reasonable, doesn't it?
Oh god why do I keep bringing this up...I must love arguing with rafa fans. Or I like punishment or something. I think I'm only going to make these comments in fed's forum where people can understand me. And yes it is infuriating the way he talks about the favourite.
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Oh god why do I keep bringing this up...I must love arguing with rafa fans. Or I like punishment or something. I think I'm only going to make these comments in fed's forum where people can understand me. And yes it is infuriating the way he talks about the favourite.
It's just a simple technique of lowering the expectations on yourself so as to perform without pressure (and sometimes placing them on someone else i.e. Federer). Some may see it as irritating and a bit cowardly, while others will be fine with it as long as it allows him to get the job done
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And I like proving know-it-all fedtards wrong!

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The Association of Professional Tennis players (ATP), organism that governs the circuit, finished signing a multiannual contract with the Gerflor-Taraflex house, but it took good note from the complaints of the main tennis players, of specially both great cracks at the present time. Thus, in August that institution contacted with the GreenSet company so that position became of the track that has settled east year in the Stage Qi Zhong.
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If the Shanghai surface is greenset, so now it's the same surface as Madrid it mean a kind of hardcourt, no carpet at all.

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