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Murray could lose #1 by the end of Wimbledon

End of Wimbledon "live" ranking:

1) Murray: 6670
2) Nadal: 5115
3) Djokovic: 4765
4) Wawrinka: 4600
5) Federer: 4045

If Nadal continues to clean up the clay field and take 3000 more points, Murray would need a deep run at Wimbledon to hold onto the #1 ranking (unless "Clayray" can somehow make a sudden reappearance and he picks up some points during Rome and RG). If Djokovic/Wawrinka could win FO or Wimbledon or make several deep runs they also have a chance at #1. Federer is too far behind considering he's skipping RG to take over #1 immediately by the end of Wimbledon even if he wins it.
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Re: Murray could lose #1 by the end of Wimbledon

Put another way, over Rome masters, RG, Queen's and Wimbledon, Murray has 4700 points to defend. He's very likely to lose that ranking unless he starts performing right now.

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Re: Murray could lose #1 by the end of Wimbledon

Federer and Nadal defend virtually nothing post-Wimbledon.
Either way Murray will feel the heat. Novak will feel the pressure lift after RG.

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Re: Murray could lose #1 by the end of Wimbledon

Murray is always in danger of dropping out of #1 after Wimbledon, as he'll only have ~1000 difference against the next one. The question is if he could actually play well when the time comes for grass, which is where his bulk of points started to grow. The question is if the others will be able to grab that lead, and it seemed Nadal is primed to do it after RG, where he virtually has no points to defend. These weeks are crucial to see whose going to be a potential long-patch #1 for the season IMO.



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Re: Murray could lose #1 by the end of Wimbledon

Hopefully he does because frankly its disturbing seeing the supposedly world #1 player getting routined by mugs every tournament
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Re: Murray could lose #1 by the end of Wimbledon

It would certainly be welcome to end Murray's undeserving hold on #1, but Nadal overtaking him is not better at all.

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It would certainly be welcome to end Murray's undeserving hold on #1, but Nadal overtaking him is not better at all.

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What if the choices are only between Murray and RAFA for #1 which is the most likely scenario?

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Re: Murray could lose #1 by the end of Wimbledon

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What if the choices are only between Murray and RAFA for #1 which is the most likely scenario?
RAFA. Mugray is not fit to be ranked that high. Even so it would be cool for Fed to win 3 slams and still finish no.2.
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Re: Murray could lose #1 by the end of Wimbledon

Given he was a much better player in every aspect before he became #1, losing this position will probably be the best thing that could happen to him.
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Re: Murray could lose #1 by the end of Wimbledon

Murray is mathematically guaranteed #1 until the mid-Monday of Wimbledon (inclusive). So, he cannot lose #1 by Wimbledon, only after Wimbledon.
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Re: Murray could lose #1 by the end of Wimbledon

Right now, this is almost Kafelnikov-like, remember when Evgeny was world #1 he was losing to nobodies, I think it was even worse.
But Murray will likely lose a lot of points at the French Open first, no way he is making the final, I actually think the damage at Wimbledon could be less big than the French, he could somehow find his form on grass.

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Re: Murray could lose #1 by the end of Wimbledon

I would say even Nadal is a better no.1 for me
but it better be Djokovic
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Hopefully he does because frankly its disturbing seeing the supposedly world #1 player getting routined by mugs every tournament
Weak era amirite?

Oh wait, Rafa is winning, cancel that.
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Re: Murray could lose #1 by the end of Wimbledon

I hope Nadal makes the QF of Wimbledon, because I think his confidence is so high he may actually win Wimbledon if he can reach the QF.
He had a good shot in 2014 too if he won that high quality match vs Krygios in 4th Round (Raonic was in QF).
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Re: Murray could lose #1 by the end of Wimbledon

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Weak era amirite?

Oh wait, Rafa is winning, cancel that.
I think Thiem will win approximately 5 French Opens, so Nadal beating Thiem twice is not weak at all.
Plus Djokovic is ranked #2 and Nadal routined him.
Nothing weak about that.
People underestimate Djokovic.
I don't think Federer will beat Djokovic if they meet at Wimbledon.
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