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shorter season is killing the Paris Indoors.

ever since the the ATP condensed the schedule to end the season earlier, the Paris tournie has been suffering from a lousy position on the calendar. Are the sponsors going to continue to put up TMS prize money for sub-par fields? It seems like they are not getting good value for what they pay.
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Re: shorter season is killing the Paris Indoors.

What they OUGHT to do is space out TMS tournies better and have fewer optionals. As it is, the season is quite gruelling. The most ridiculous of course, is Canada/Cincy being literally back to back.
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Re: shorter season is killing the Paris Indoors.

It's not fair on people who have bought tickets already , if none of the major players are playing.
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Re: shorter season is killing the Paris Indoors.

This cannot go on year after year, it's really not fair to ticket holders, tournament organizers, so many of the people who put in work to make this successful and it is also not fair to expect players facing burnout and injury to show up regardless of their wellbeing. Maybe they can alternate its position on the schedule with some other tournament.
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Re: shorter season is killing the Paris Indoors.

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What they OUGHT to do is space out TMS tournies better and have fewer optionals. As it is, the season is quite gruelling. The most ridiculous of course, is Canada/Cincy being literally back to back.
Certainly fewer optionals should count towards the ranking of top players. Probably 3 would be a good number. It is necessary to have some top players at non-master series and grand slam events, but top players should be focused on master series and grand slams.
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Re: shorter season is killing the Paris Indoors.

Another possibility is to limit the total number of tournaments, like they had in the past. For example, alternate years can have a rotating configuration of T.M.S, maybe 5 a year instead of 9.
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What they OUGHT to do is space out TMS tournies better and have fewer optionals. As it is, the season is quite gruelling. The most ridiculous of course, is Canada/Cincy being literally back to back.
Rome/Hamburg back to back is arguably worse as they are on clay with best-of-five set finals - though neither is particularly well thought out.
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Re: shorter season is killing the Paris Indoors.

Problems about tickets? you will be watching good tennis despite Federer and Nadal are not playing.

If you are expectating to watch them, then don't ever go to Hamburg, Cincinatti or Paris.

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Re: shorter season is killing the Paris Indoors.

also has its advantages like the finale of ATP Race conclusion.
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Re: shorter season is killing the Paris Indoors.

The fields have been depleted indeed, but one thing this tournament can't complain of is the lack of worthy winners.

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The most ridiculous of course, is Canada/Cincy being literally back to back.

i don't completely agree about that. The main problem is NOT merely that Canada/Cincy (and Rome/Hamburg) are back to back. The problem is that they are back-to-back, followed 7 days later by the start of a Grand Slam. No player who intends to win a GS title wants to be in the finals of two consecutive TMS events right beforehand. There needs to an extra week of separation between these TMS events and the Slams. Similarly for Madrid, Bercy, and the TMC.
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Re: shorter season is killing the Paris Indoors.

The problem is that the carpet season is too short. That makes less players really interested in it.
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Re: shorter season is killing the Paris Indoors.

When was the last time 3 of the top 5 showed up for Paris?

Also, maybe this tournament should be cancelled. Parisians can always go to the French Open.
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When was the last time 3 of the top 5 showed up for Paris?

Also, maybe this tournament should be cancelled. Parisians can always go to the French Open.
Shut up. Cancel one of the 500 clay tournaments.
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Also, maybe this tournament should be cancelled. Parisians can always go to the French Open.

Come on. The US has a Grand Slam plus 3 TMS events. In France, where tennis is a far bigger sport than in the US, the country certainly deserves another large tournament in addition to RG.
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