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Who Agrees w/the Unlimited Challenge System?

Hey All,

I think I agree that something needs to be done as it pertains to players only getting 2 challenges per set. Look what happened to Marat against David.

Mary C., surely did make her point months ago about this. In the article below - she is quoted again stating that the onus shouldn't even be on the players. The technology is there - so why not just use it when there is a close call?

Btw - when will they get the tech on every court? I think it would be funny if it wasn't so sad that only the Stadium Court and Court 1, for an example, employ Hawk Eye. I really do believe it is a tsk-tsk - kind of situation.

What say y'all? Shouldn't they expand the technology to all courts - and shouldn't the challenges be unlimited?

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Re: Who Agrees w/the Unlimited Challenge System?

Not unlimited, but I would double the amount of challenges there are now.
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Hey All,

I think I agree that something needs to be done as it pertains to players only getting 2 challenges per set. Look what happened to Marat against David.

Mary C., surely did make her point months ago about this. In the article below - she is quoted again stating that the onus shouldn't even be on the players. The technology is there - so why not just use it when there is a close call?

Btw - when will they get the tech on every court? I think it would be funny if it wasn't so sad that only the Stadium Court and Court 1, for an example, employ Hawk Eye. I really do believe it is a tsk-tsk - kind of situation.

What say y'all? Shouldn't they expand the technology to all courts - and shouldn't the challenges be unlimited?

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this argument, which was also presented by Mary "Know-Nothing" Carillo last winter, is a poorly diguised effort to undermine the concept of replay line calling. What you are really trying to argue, without saying it, is that bad calls are somehow a necessary part of tennis. I don't buy into that.

I think two challenges is enough. It makes things interesting. And replay only on the show courts is a hell of a lot better than no replay at all.
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Re: Who Agrees w/the Unlimited Challenge System?

Even now, with only two, players use it to slow down play or just for the hell of it. Play is going to slow down even more with the unlimited challenge system.

That said, I think I'd rather have a slower match than have players cheated out of wins and points at very crucial moments of matches just because they are stupid when it comes to challenging calls.

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if you have an unlimited challenge system, players will be checking the line calls 20 times a set, because they have nothing to lose from doing so. Terrible idea.
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Re: Who Agrees w/the Unlimited Challenge System?

i think the system is stupid and we should get rid of it. it's not going to be fair for everyone until it completely gets rid for the need for line judges on all courts (and that would be terrible for tennis because the human element is such a big part of the game)

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i think the system is stupid and we should get rid of it. it's not going to be fair for everyone until it completely gets rid for the need for line judges on all courts (and that would be terrible for tennis because the human element is such a big part of the game)

see what i mean? The thread starter's argument brings the people out of the woodwork who were 100 percent against replay from the very beginning.
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Re: Who Agrees w/the Unlimited Challenge System?

I am for the unlimited challenges. It takes more time for the players to decide whether they will challenge or not (many times they walk towards the mark, look, then look again, sometimes they even argue with the umpire trying to get him to overrule, glare at the linespeople, etc) than to automatically check a close line call. And although in the USOpen Series the linespeople were usually correct (about 2/3 of the times), in Madrid I remember some matches where their performance was terrible and most challenges were correct. IMO unlimited challenges will make everybody's life easier and tennis matches fair as far as line calls are concerned.
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Re: Who Agrees w/the Unlimited Challenge System?

I think players should receive unlimited challenges because linespeople/umpire can be wrong more than two times a set.

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Even now, with only two, players use it to slow down play or just for the hell of it. Play is going to slow down even more with the unlimited challenge system.

That said, I think I'd rather have a slower match than have players cheated out of wins and points at very crucial moments of matches just because they are stupid when it comes to challenging calls.
Agree.

Number needs to be limited, but more than currently. Possibly, 3 a set and 1 extra in tie break

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Dreadful idea.
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Players can challenge unlimited calls on clay, what's the difference if it's electronic replay?

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Re: Who Agrees w/the Unlimited Challenge System?

unlimited challenges would be stupid....then a best of three sets match would probably last 4 hours :-) however i do agree than there should be more than 2 challenges per metch....4 or 5 would be good.

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Players can challenge unlimited calls on clay, what's the difference if it's electronic replay?
Very good point. Challenges on clay may also take far longer than challenges using Hawkeye.
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Re: Who Agrees w/the Unlimited Challenge System?

I agree with Mary Carillo. A system that expensive should be put to its full use. Sometimes for months you don't have a tourney that uses it, or you have it on one court only so only a few players get the benefit of it or worse you use your challenges and if there's a clearly bad call you can't do shit about it.

If it can't be used to the fullest I think they should get rid of it.

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