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did you know that pts from other tournys count
Yeah, but people don't consider how many piss-poor tier 1000's you win when they consider if, at the end of your career, you lived up to your potential and you were great. The look at slam wins (Roddick-1, Ljube-0), slam finals (Roddick-4, Ljube-0), TMS wins (Roddick-4, Ljube-0), TMC qualifications (Roddick-3, Ljube- 1), if and how long you were number one (Roddick-13 weeks, Ljube- )

Ljube can continue to win baby tournies like Vienna or Chennai because Andy's won 5 of what Ljube won't ever win.

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did you know that pts from other tournys count
Did you know that they mean squat next to MS and slams?

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Roddick's numbers are quite good! (especially if you remove Federer )

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Did you know that they mean squat next to MS and slams?
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Blake's numbers are great too for those who say hey SUCKS suck on THAT. even with a 0-5 H2H Against Fed, he's only -2 against Top 10!

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quit living in a dream world where Ljubicic accomplishes more than Roddick. Ljubicic has by his standards a great year and Roddick by his standards a horrific one, and they are still almost even in the rankings

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quit living in a dream world where Ljubicic accomplishes more than Roddick. Ljubicic has by his standards a great year and Roddick by his standards a horrific one, and they are still almost even in the rankings

Ducky if you want people to listen to you and think you actually have something intelligent to say, it's really time to come up with something new
i dont live in a world where Ljubicic accomplishes more than roddick...i live in today where Ljubicic is better than Roddick
maybe you need to quit living in the world where roddick can win another GS

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Roddick's chances of winning a (second) slam are about 3 times more than Ljube's chances to ever win one.

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i dont live in a world where Ljubicic accomplishes more than roddick...i live in today where Ljubicic is better than Roddick
by what measure exactly? The only measure that counts are accomplishments
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maybe you need to quit living in the world where roddick can win another GS
Unlike yourself, I never make bold pronouncements. I am logical and reasonable enough to know when something is unlikely to occur, and I have never once stated that I think Andy will win another Slam.

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by what measure exactly? The only measure that counts are accomplishments
Unlike yourself, I never make bold pronouncements. I am logical and reasonable enough to know when something is unlikely to occur, and I have never once stated that I think Andy will win another Slam.

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what do past accomplishments have to do with who is better today?

When have i said Ljubicic will ever win a GS? or a TMS...
look at the wishes for 2007 thread..i didnt even do it there

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measuring past accomplishments, Hewitt is better than roddick? roddick might suck , but he is still better than Hewitt today.
If they were to both retire today, absolutely, Hewitt will have had a better career than Andy. And I'm ok with that, I don't need to put Hewitt down to make Andy look better As I said in the thread about Berdych and Andy, I have issues with simply saying "better" because that is too subjective. So except for the fact that you happen to like Ljubicic and clearly are incapable of being objective, why do you really care so much about Roddick sucking? You have to keep saying "Roddick sucks" to pump up your guy? If you have to put other players down to pump up your own, you must not actually be all that confident in his ability to have his accomplishments stand on their own

Moreover, I didn't say you said Ljubicic would win a slam or whatever, but you make pronouncements about matches he'll win and stuff all the time; I on the other hand am the type who expects Andy to lose probably 75% of all the matches he plays . Yet, you accused me of saying I think Andy can; I didn't. I didn't put words into your mouth, you put them into mine (twice now)

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If they were to both retire today, absolutely, Hewitt will have had a better career than Andy. And I'm ok with that, I don't need to put Hewitt down to make Andy look better As I said in the thread about Berdych and Andy, I have issues with simply saying "better" because that is too subjective. So except for the fact that you happen to like Ljubicic and clearly are incapable of being objective, why do you really care so much about Roddick sucking? You have to keep saying "Roddick sucks" to pump up your guy? If you have to put other players down to pump up your own, you must not actually all that confident in his ability to have his accomplishments stand on their own
Do you really think i say Roddick Sucks to pump up ljubicic
i mean even tangy knows why i do it

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Do you really think i say Roddick Sucks to pump up ljubicic
i mean even tangy knows why i do it
That's how it appears to an objective outsider

If not that, then why? Just to be an assclown? Yeah, because that's a far more dignified reason That or you actually think he sucks and just have no tact

Point being, you can't deny Andy's good record against those in the top 10 except for Federer. Isn't that what this thread is about anyway?

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you must not actually be all that confident in his ability

but you make pronouncements about matches he'll win and stuff all the time; I on the other hand am the type who expects Andy to lose probably 75% of all the matches he plays . Yet, you accused me of saying I think Andy can; I didn't. I didn't put words into your mouth, you put them into mine (twice now)

Keep going, this is fun.
so you say i have no confidence in ivan ability...
and but you expect Andy to lose 75% of his matches?

why would i not a confidence in his ability if you say i pronounce that he will win and stuff all the time?



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