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What`s so bad about being a MOONBALLER~??~.


When it comes to playing tennis my talents are pretty limited~ so I`ve taken inspiration from the joy Nadal seems to get from ripping those massively top spinning forehands->> or moonballs as they`re referred to around MTF
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...If we can`t be as smooth, & graceful like a ballerina [damn talented]~ a la Federer, then surely it makes sense to try the Nadal technique & hope for the same enjoyable results [okay okay I`m not going to be holding up the FO trophy anytime soon ]..
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>> What I mean is why are tennis experts so critical of moonballing .
Frankly I think it`s fun to do & fun to watch if done with powerful aggression
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Re: What`s so bad about being a MOONBALLER~??~.

Moonballing is the ultimate display of technical deficiency, so...
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Moonballing is the ultimate display of technical deficiency, so...
I disagree ... Making a circular swing with a tennis racket & hitting with enough speed/power to make the ball bounce near the baseline of the opposite side of the court and spin wikedly there, takes a fair amount of technique .. It may not be the technique you prefer to watch but it`s still a technique nontheless
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Re: What`s so bad about being a MOONBALLER~??~.

Nadal is such a bad example. Kids will going to die in the gym trying to get his biceps while hitting the ball like using a bat to kill pigs

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When it comes to playing tennis my talents are pretty limited
You've just shot yourself in the foot by basically saying that moonballing is what you do when you don't have much talent

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You've just shot yourself in the foot by basically saying that moonballing is what you do when you don't have much talent

Mate ~~It`s the same in all sports, the less talented have to find a way to win .. For example in golf~> most people don`t have the flexibility or strength of Tiger Woods, so should they give up .. Many golfers have developed a punch shot that`s reliable & effective at getting sufficient length on iron shots, instead of a full flowing graceful swing .. Moonballing helps people like me enjoy tennis
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Mate, unless you have the speed and physique of a Rafael Nadal you're setting yourself up for a quick slaughter unless you quit moonballing around I'm sure there are players even at your level who would have you for breakfast if all you can do is play defensive tennis all day long. Of course if you're well endowed with good genes, you may have a chance to frustrate your opponents and win ugly
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Re: What`s so bad about being a MOONBALLER~??~.

Here i thought moonballing meant playing like a high balls pusher. Nadal's balls must weigh a ton, regardless of their alleged heigth. There is probably not a single professional moonballer in the true sense of the term.
Or has it been redefined by internet knights who must defend the honor of low balls against all slights to mean any ball higher than shoulder?
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Re: What`s so bad about being a MOONBALLER~??~.

I think you have a valid point. It's just a different technique, one that I'm not to crazy about but none the less a technique. Yes I know Ferrer is one of them too, don't shoot me let me finish, but I admire him for his willpower and fight.(btw high time you start showing some of that again Sr. Ferrer )

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By my definition, Rafa is NOT a moonballer. If, by moonballer, you mean a person who plays defensive tennis, then yes I suppose he's that...but with his quickness, if he didn't run down balls, it would be a waste of his talents. ANd it isn't like the guy never hits winners - he does...itisn't all about waiting for his opponent to make a mistake (thought that's some of it).

I dunno - I think Rafa is a pretty talented player in his own right.
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I agree Nadal is no moonballer in the classical sense, but if you want to be a moonballer, you'd better have his other assets otherwise you're toast.
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I disagree ... Making a circular swing with a tennis racket & hitting with enough speed/power to make the ball bounce near the baseline of the opposite side of the court and spin wikedly there, takes a fair amount of technique .. It may not be the technique you prefer to watch but it`s still a technique nontheless
What you discribe is a lob. Not all moonballing is about lobbing to the baseline when the opponent is near the net. Sometimes it's about just two people moonballing back and forth from the baseline with easy to reach shots......just waiting to see which one gets tired first.

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I agree Nadal is no moonballer in the classical sense, but if you want to be a moonballer, you'd better have his other assets otherwise you're toast.
What is moonballer in the classical sense?
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Re: What`s so bad about being a MOONBALLER~??~.

its playing to not lose instead of playing to win, I cant stand moonballers... Although Nadal attacks more than a moonballer im not sure I would put him as a moonballer.

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Re: What`s so bad about being a MOONBALLER~??~.

Nadal can hit very flat shots as well, that's why he's so good and dangerous on clay courts, he can hit 3 or 4 deep topspin balls that give you plenty of reaction time then throw opponents off with a crushing flat forehand, he did it plenty of times to Federer in the final.

It's not quite as pure, true, and flush, as hitting a flat shot so in terms of technicality it probably is looked down upon, but still obviously can be very effective.

Edit: And calling it a moonball is exaggerating a little, if you want to see true moonballs, watch Chang's '89 R16 match against Lendl, those are moonballs.

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