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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 03-13-2017, 10:39 PM Thread Starter
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Is it just me or does this year's Indian Wells slowest compared to all the past tournament?

I see some power players hitting the ball hard and serving it hard but as soon as the ball bounces it seems to be slowing down.

Also in the results there are many upsets by clay courters winning unexpectedly and big servers like Karlovic faling.

Why did they make it slow this year? I wanted Federer to win but this works against his favor.
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post #2 of 7 (permalink) Old 03-13-2017, 10:44 PM
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Re: 2017 Indian Wells Court Speed, Slowest?

Yeah, it's pretty slow this year. But for me, it's good, we have already got some fine tennis and more is coming.
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Re: 2017 Indian Wells Court Speed, Slowest?

It has been this slow for years.
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Re: 2017 Indian Wells Court Speed, Slowest?

It's just as slow as last year

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Re: 2017 Indian Wells Court Speed, Slowest?

From what you guys seen so far how would you rate Miami Open court speed relative to Indian wells....Does it seem slower or faster? I couldn't tell from my shitty quality streams.
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Re: 2017 Indian Wells Court Speed, Slowest?

IW playing conditions were actually slower this year:

Please note this is a Court Pace Index and comes directly from Hawkeye data. So it's actually a true representation of the court speed for the speed of the court that year at each tournament. As it's an index it also factors in the climate / weather conditions not just the surface.
As for Miami, from what I can tell you the surface used -Laykold Cushion Plus- has a lower bounce than IW's Plexipave IW (it's still a medium-high bounce per se), which means a lower COR, -coefficient of restitution-. This is a short explanation on how COR impacts on a court's pace:

Friction (COF) and vertical restitution (COR) are combined by ITF to give CPR -court pace rating-, using this equation:

We can infer that Laykold's CPR is higher than Plexipave IW's one as my observations are consistent with ITF's classification of boths surfaces:

- As a Cat. 1, slow-paced surface, IW court's CPR is less than 29.
- As a Cat. 3, medium-paced surface, Miami court's CPR is spread between 35 and 39.

But CPR is a limited index as it does not factor in the prevailing environmental conditions such as:

- Maximum and minimum temperature of the air, surface and test balls.
- Maximum and minimum relative humidity.
- Maximum and minimum atmospheric pressure.
- Condition of the surface, i.e. dry, damp, etc.

So I'm afraid we have to wait for Tennis tv next update of the CPI.
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Re: 2017 Indian Wells Court Speed, Slowest?

Wow, Indian Wells is not much faster than Rome.

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