J. Johansson def. Del Potro 6:4, 6:4 - MensTennisForums.com
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 47 (permalink) Old 10-17-2006, 07:17 PM Thread Starter
♤23♤
 
Deathless Mortal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 32,975
                     
J. Johansson def. Del Potro 6:4, 6:4

Well done!! C'mon! I'm glad you're back!


"a kad me opet gore vrati zahvalit' ću Mu prvo
što nam je dao komad zemlje što je za sebe sačuv'o"
Deathless Mortal is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 47 (permalink) Old 10-17-2006, 07:18 PM
_._._._._._
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Age: 32
Posts: 72,524
                     
Re: J. Johansson def. Del Potro 6:4, 6:4

Del Potro 0/8 on break points, that's where the match was lost.
adee-gee is offline  
post #3 of 47 (permalink) Old 10-17-2006, 07:22 PM
Registered User
 
DrJules's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 10,594
                     
Re: J. Johansson def. Del Potro 6:4, 6:4

Quote:
Originally Posted by adee-gee View Post
Del Potro 0/8 on break points, that's where the match was lost.

How many saved by Johansson aces and service winners.

The current greatness league of active players in order of achievements to date (a factual comparison rather than fan biased assessment):

Federer 17 GS, 6 Year End Masters, 24 Master Series.
Nadal 14 GS, 27 Master Series, 1 Olympic Gold.
Djokovic 9 GS, 4 Year End Masters, 24 Master Series.


DrJules is offline  
post #4 of 47 (permalink) Old 10-17-2006, 07:23 PM
Registered User
 
stebs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Age: 43
Posts: 11,530
                     
Re: J. Johansson def. Del Potro 6:4, 6:4

Quote:
Originally Posted by DrJules View Post
How many saved by Johansson aces and service winners.
I'd guess 5 or 6 saved by serves and 1 or 2 saved by points Del Potro could never get into. I suspect only about 1 or 2 real chances.

Champions deserve whatever they win playing within the laws of the game
stebs is offline  
post #5 of 47 (permalink) Old 10-17-2006, 07:23 PM
Banned!
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Age: 93
Posts: 31,496
                     
Re: J. Johansson def. Del Potro 6:4, 6:4

Bang goes the Del Potro hype.
Jaap is offline  
post #6 of 47 (permalink) Old 10-17-2006, 07:27 PM
Senior Member
 
NATAS81's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Monte Carlo, Monaco
Age: 34
Posts: 19,353
                     
Re: J. Johansson def. Del Potro 6:4, 6:4

In before the 10 minute mark!

Heja!

In one game, Joachim won at love and all points were aces!

After his first service game he had 2 aces - the same number of aces Mathieu had the whole match vs. JMDP.
NATAS81 is offline  
post #7 of 47 (permalink) Old 10-17-2006, 07:28 PM
Registered User
 
tennisgal_001's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 4,816
                     
Re: J. Johansson def. Del Potro 6:4, 6:4

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaap View Post
Bang goes the Del Potro hype.
Oh c'mon now. Del Petro did well enough to get through the quallies and enter the main draw of an AMS. He's 18 n' a few weeks remember. But honestly, not much he could've done today. JJ was serving out of his freakin' mind. 17 aces in a 4&4 win 1h 15min is insane, 70% 1st serve, 80% pts on 1st serve and 60% pts on second serve. Too good today.
Kolya will be blown off court if JJ comes in as prepared as he was today.

12 Slams and STALLING

(courtesy of Dimonator133)
tennisgal_001 is offline  
post #8 of 47 (permalink) Old 10-17-2006, 07:28 PM
Registered User
 
Hendu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 3,791
                     
Re: J. Johansson def. Del Potro 6:4, 6:4

I didn't see the match, but looking at the stats it seems it was a close one.

17 aces for Pim Pim.

Good tournament for Del Potro, being able to qualify to an AMS tournament for the first time.
Hendu is offline  
post #9 of 47 (permalink) Old 10-17-2006, 07:30 PM
Registered User
 
Nathaliia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 96,236
                     
Re: J. Johansson def. Del Potro 6:4, 6:4

Congrats PimPim

yeap I think that JMDP already did his stuff in quallies, hes not used to def. so many class opponents at one tournament

I will burn
And you will die...


my old Polish blog www.tenislove.pl
Nathaliia is offline  
post #10 of 47 (permalink) Old 10-17-2006, 07:30 PM
Registered User
 
DrJules's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 10,594
                     
Re: J. Johansson def. Del Potro 6:4, 6:4

Quote:
Originally Posted by stebs View Post
I'd guess 5 or 6 saved by serves and 1 or 2 saved by points Del Potro could never get into. I suspect only about 1 or 2 real chances.
Of the 63 points in the match won by Johansson, 17 were won with aces. Del Potro only served 3 aces. I guess that Del Potro struggles returning the serve.

The current greatness league of active players in order of achievements to date (a factual comparison rather than fan biased assessment):

Federer 17 GS, 6 Year End Masters, 24 Master Series.
Nadal 14 GS, 27 Master Series, 1 Olympic Gold.
Djokovic 9 GS, 4 Year End Masters, 24 Master Series.


DrJules is offline  
post #11 of 47 (permalink) Old 10-17-2006, 07:35 PM
Registered User
 
DrJules's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 10,594
                     
Re: J. Johansson def. Del Potro 6:4, 6:4

Quote:
Originally Posted by tennisgal_001 View Post
Oh c'mon now. Del Petro did well enough to get through the quallies and enter the main draw of an AMS. He's 18 n' a few weeks remember. But honestly, not much he could've done today. JJ was serving out of his freakin' mind. 17 aces in a 4&4 win 1h 15min is insane, 70% 1st serve, 80% pts on 1st serve and 60% pts on second serve. Too good today.
Kolya will be blown off court if JJ comes in as prepared as he was today.
On this form it is not a surprise he beat Nadal last week and is probably capable of other "surprise results".

The current greatness league of active players in order of achievements to date (a factual comparison rather than fan biased assessment):

Federer 17 GS, 6 Year End Masters, 24 Master Series.
Nadal 14 GS, 27 Master Series, 1 Olympic Gold.
Djokovic 9 GS, 4 Year End Masters, 24 Master Series.


DrJules is offline  
post #12 of 47 (permalink) Old 10-17-2006, 07:39 PM
Registered User
 
Hendu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 3,791
                     
Re: J. Johansson def. Del Potro 6:4, 6:4

Quote:
Originally Posted by DrJules View Post
Of the 63 points in the match won by Johansson, 17 were won with aces. Del Potro only served 3 aces. I guess that Del Potro struggles returning the serve.
Del Potro returning serve:

1st serve: 10/44 23%
2nd serve: 8/19 42%

Pim Pim returning serve:

1st serve: 15/45 33%
2nd serve: 3/12 25%
Hendu is offline  
post #13 of 47 (permalink) Old 10-17-2006, 07:43 PM
Registered User
 
jayjay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,505
                     
Re: J. Johansson def. Del Potro 6:4, 6:4

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaap View Post
Bang goes the Del Potro hype.
Why would that be?
jayjay is offline  
post #14 of 47 (permalink) Old 10-17-2006, 07:46 PM
Registered User
 
Hendu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 3,791
                     
Re: J. Johansson def. Del Potro 6:4, 6:4

Quote:
Originally Posted by jayjay View Post
Why would that be?
He didn't win Madrid in his first participation in a Masters Series Tournament.
Hendu is offline  
post #15 of 47 (permalink) Old 10-17-2006, 07:48 PM
Occasional Visitor
 
*Ljubica*'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 52,208
                     
Re: J. Johansson def. Del Potro 6:4, 6:4

Quote:
Originally Posted by DrJules View Post
Of the 63 points in the match won by Johansson, 17 were won with aces. Del Potro only served 3 aces. I guess that Del Potro struggles returning the serve.
JMDP had never played indoors until Saturday when he played his first Madrid quallie match, so it is not surprising he found it hard to return a serve as fast and hard as Johansson under the lights and in a completely different environment than he has ever been used to before. At his age, every game is part of a huge learning curve of experience - this was his first ever attempt at a Masters' Series event - and to get through quallies and play such a close match against the man who beat Nadal last week is nothing at all to be ashamed of. As a matter of interest - I wonder if the poster who says JMDP is "hyped" has ever actually seen him play

AJDE SRBIJA


Supporting Djoković, Tipsarević, Soderling, Tursunov, Youzhny, Cilić and quite a few more
*Ljubica* is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the MensTennisForums.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome