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McEnroe critical of Wimbledon inequality

McEnroe critical of Wimbledon inequality
By Mark Hodgkinson in Madrid
(Filed: 16/10/2006)



As opinionated and forthright as ever, John McEnroe has attacked the All England Club for their decision not to award equal prize money to the men and women at the Wimbledon Championships.

advertisementMcEnroe, a three-time Wimbledon singles champion, said that a failure to pay women the same as men was sending out the wrong message to "society".

Wimbledon is the only one of the four grand slam events not to pay the same amount to its men's and women's champions, with Roger Federer earning £655,000 at this season's tournament, some £30,000 more than Amelie Mauresmo.

The Australian Open and the US Open, the more politically correct of the grand slams, pay the same amount to all men and women, while the French Open rewarded their men's and women's champions equally for the first time this season, although all other female competitors earned less than their male counterparts.

McEnroe strongly rejected one of the arguments put forward by the All England that men's matches are the best of five sets, while the women play over three sets, and therefore do not deserve parity of pay.

"I know people argue that the top women have easier matches in the same week, their matches don't last as long, and therefore they don't deserve to earn as much as men.

"I would probably have said the same thing when I was playing, but that isn't the point. I went to see the movie, King Kong, it was too long, being long didn't make it better.

"So I don't believe that argument about the matches being longer is relevant," McEnroe told the November issue of GQ magazine.

"This issue isn't whether men are better than women; it is sending a message of equality to society. I have four girls and two boys, and as a parent, I feel the example tennis is setting – with the exception of Wimbledon – is tremendous.

"It is saying that, unlike any other sport, we value women and their contribution as much as we do men. "I think that is terrific," the New Yorker said.

"In soccer, basketball, golf, any sport you care to name, women earn a fraction of what men earn. What sort of signal does that send to young people? That women aren't good enough, that they are not worth watching? I am proud of what tennis has done there. I just wish the All England Club would fall in line with everyone else."

McEnroe also spoke of his admiration for Andy Murray's will to win. "I don't know whether it's because he comes from Scotland and they always feel like the poor relations to England, or because of what happened to him when he was caught up in the Dunblane shootings, even though he was only on the periphery, but there is something in there he uses to motivate himself.

"He is chippy, he has a bit of anger, he has something burning inside and it drives him on. I like that about him, it's what gives him the strength to win," he said.

Here at this week's Madrid Masters, should Murray defeat a qualifier in the opening round he will then play Ivan Ljubicic, the Croatian world No 3, in round two, while fellow Briton, Tim Henman, a wild card, opens against Spain's Fernando Verdasco.

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Why should women get the same unless they play 5 sets, like men?
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King kong is a good film
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Why should women get the same unless they play 5 sets, like men?
So according to this reasoning, the men's champion should be paid 60% more if he wins all of his matches in 5 sets than if he wins all his matches in 3 sets?

(I know this has been debated to death, but can't help pointing out some obvious fallacies).
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You got my point. Men play for 5 hours and women rarely go over 3. They can't get the same.
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They're not paid by the hour, they're paid to bring in fans and deliver quality tennis.

McEnroe brings up some nice points.

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You got my point. Men play for 5 hours and women rarely go over 3. They can't get the same.
thats the point McEnroe's trying to make, it doesnt matter. in their own way the women work hard to.
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They're not paid by the hour, they're paid to bring in fans and deliver quality tennis.

McEnroe brings up some nice points.
If that's the real deal women should get nothing.
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failure to pay women the same as men was sending out the wrong message to "society".
So he wants to send the message that people will not be paid according to their productiveness, but according to their sex, that seems rather sexist.

If women brought in the same amount of money that men do for the tournaments then they would get paid equally, but they dont so they shouldnt be paid more.

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So he wants to send the message that people will not be paid according to their productiveness, but according to their sex, that seems rather sexist.

If women brought in the same amount of money that men do for the tournaments then they would get paid equally, but they dont so they shouldnt be paid more.
Stop trying to be logical, we have been through this debate before. I mean guys are considered cavemen cause the ATP generates more sponsorship, higher revenue and ticket sales than the WTA.

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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STFU Jonny. Women should NEVER earn the same amout of money in any sport, especially tennis. Whoever says a top woman who usually in early rounds plays no more then about 15 games should earn more then a man whos out there for hours is a huge :retard:
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Isn't the ATP thinking of going more toward the best of three themselves? I think if both men and women play best of three then the pay should be equal. But if the men have to play best of five and the women don't, the women should be paid less.
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Isn't the ATP thinking of going more toward the best of three themselves? I think if both men and women play best of three then the pay should be equal. But if the men have to play best of five and the women don't, the women should be paid less.
Not in the Slams, cause the ITF run those. The ATP is doing it for their events.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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King Kong was awesome lol, wtf is JMac talkin about
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