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Top 5 Open Era Players At Each Slam

I have been thinking about this for some time and it is incredibly hard to come to a decision. Who would make up the top 5 for each slam, based on acheivements, open era only counts so Laver will probably not feature. My personal opinions are below.

Australian Open

1 - Andre Agassi
2 - Mats Wilander
3 - Stefan Edberg
4 - Roger Federer
5 - Ivan Lendl


Roland Garros

1 - Bjorn Borg
2 - Rafael Nadal
3 - Ivan Lendl
4 - Mats Wilander
5 - Gustavo Kuerten


Wimbledon

1 - Pete Sampras
2 - Bjorn Borg
3 - Roger Federer
4 - Boris Becker
5 - John McEnroe


US Open

1 - Pete Sampras
2 - Jimmy Connors
3 - Roger Federer
4 - Ivan Lendl
5 - John McEnroe


I put Nadal up to second on the RG list with 4 straight titles and he can't go any higher next year, we have to wait until '10 at least.

Federer is third on the Wimbledon list with basically identical acheivements to Borg, to get ahead an SF, F or W will do in 2009.

At the USO all five men on the list have insane achievements. Federer is still a little behind Connors who also got 5 titles there but with two finals. A sixth title in a row for Federer in 2009 would definately take him second and maybe first, anything less and he would remai in third.

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Re: Top 5 Open Era Players At Each Slam

Thanks for your lists, stebs. I essentially agree with them.

Jim Courier almost qualifies for that fifth spot on the AO list, but I guess Sampras' 1995 final loss cements him into that position.

If Nadal wins RG next year, will he replace Bruguera? It's hard to judge since he has only played it twice, but won both times!

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Re: Top 5 Open Era Players At Each Slam

Federer ahead of Becker on Wimbledon.

And Fed ahead of Agassi- 3 > 2
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If Nadal wins RG next year, will he replace Bruguera? It's hard to judge since he has only played it twice, but won both times!
Yes, I guess he would.

The criteria I used were: slams won (of course), slam finals, great streaks.

If those couldn't really seperate players I would check further results (semi finals and quarter finals etc...)

Seeing as this is totally based on acheivements another win for Nadal would put him pretty close to Kuerten and maybe ahead. After all, he would equal the slams won and with a good streak going on.

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Federer ahead of Becker on Wimbledon.

And Fed ahead of Agassi- 3 > 2
Federer has won all his finals in both of those tournaments. Becker, however, has 4 finals to go with his three finals and Agassi also has 4 finals at the US Open. This is what puts them above him for now...just.

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Wimbledon
1. Sampras
2. Borg
3. Federer
4. McEnroe
5. Becker


US Open
1.Connors
2.Sampras
3.Lendl
4.McEnroe
5.Agassi

French Open
1.Borg
2.Lendl
3.Wilander
4.Kuerten
5.Bruguera

Australian Open
1.Agassi
2.Wilander
3.Lendl
4.Edberg
5.Sampras

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Kuerten number 4 in Paris? He would beat down Lendl or Wilander, i think he would beat Borg in his prime on clay.
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Good lists Stebs. Federer with one more Wimby win would be third and one more USO win would get him into the USO list. Another AO final put him in a tie with Pete and a win at the AO would get him onto that list.

Pete being on top of the Wimby and USO lists is of course quite impressive. 15 finals appearances between those two slams.
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Australian Open

1 - Andre Agassi
2 - Mats Wilander
3 - Stefan Edberg
4 - Ivan Lendl
5 - Pete Sampras


Roland Garros

1 - Bjorn Borg
2 - Ivan Lendl
3 - Mats Wilander
4 - Gustavo Kuerten
5 - Sergi Bruguera


Wimbledon

1 - Pete Sampras
2 - Bjorn Borg
3 - Boris Becker
4 - Roger Federer
5 - John McEnroe


US Open

1 - Pete Sampras
2 - Jimmy Connors
3 - Ivan Lendl
4 - John McEnroe
5 - Andre Agassi
Yup, I think that's spot on. Federer is almost on the AO and USO lists, and Nadal is almost on the RG list.

The AO is interesting. It's only been played on Rebound Ace since 1988 so we can only compare one or two generations. But Agassi is definately the greatest Rebound Ace player, at the moment.
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Kuerten number 4 in Paris? He would beat down Lendl or Wilander, i think he would beat Borg in his prime on clay.
As stated in the top post, these rankings are based on acheivements.

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It would be safe to say that it is likely Federer will end no lower than #3 at Wimbledon and he will probably feature on the AO and USO lists before his number's up.

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This thread is too thoughtful for MTF.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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This thread is too thoughtful for MTF.
Possibly. I am surprised RFK has not been in here saying Nadal should be at the top of the RG list.

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Possibly. I am surprised RFK has not been in here saying Nadal should be at the top of the RG list.
See it's well thought out and most of those you listed are very solid cases and RFK well the Da Vinci Code has been cracked with him.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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See it's well thought out and most of those you listed are very solid cases and RFK well the Da Vinci Code has been cracked with him.
The choice most likely to be slated is having Becker above Federer. It is a close thing and I have no doubt that if I were to update this in two years that order would be reversed but for me 3 titles plus 4 finals is just about better than 4 titles.

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