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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-15-2006, 04:23 PM Thread Starter
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Who has a greater career at this point..

It is surprising , as Ljubicic is of much more high profile, it seems, but apart from that, their resumes are totally comparable..

Davydenko has an edge in titles ( 9 against Ljubicic's 6, all othem, totally mickey mouse stuff for both players ), and in Grand Slam credentials ( a couple of Slam semis, few quarters against , actually, 1 semifinal and 1 QF of Lubicic ), while Ljubicic has an edge in best rankings ( 3rd vs 5th ), TMS results ( 3 TMS finals ) and Davis Cup ( win for Ivan against yet-unplayed final for Kolya, )..
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Re: Who has a greater career at this point..

If I suggested it was Ljubicic you'd only get upset (I'm not necessarily saying it is), so I'll leave others to cast their verdict.

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Re: Who has a greater career at this point..

At this point I say Ivan because unlike davydenko he has won a davis cup pretty much single handedly and also has a Olympics medal.
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If I suggested it was Ljubicic you'd only get upset (I'm not necessarily saying it is), so I'll leave others to cast their verdict.
I would not get upset about anything, really.. As I myself am not very certain what would my choice be.. Both are elite players, but both really didn't achieve anything that would be remembered much yet outside of their countries.. So, not sure..

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Re: Who has a greater career at this point..

Davydenko has certainly fared better at the grand slams than Ljubicic: Davydenko has reached the quarter-final or better five times (all of those coming in his last eight outings); while Ljubicic has only managed to reach the quarter-final or better on two occasions (both this year.) However, Davydenko has been less impressive at Master Series than Ljubicic. Also, Ljubicic has the better Davis Cup record (though this may be negated somewhat should Davydenko help Russia to win against Argentina)

Their success to date seems pretty even. Yet, Davydenko is two years younger than Ljubicic so may ultimately have the better career. Davydenko prospects of winning a 'big title' are pretty slim (Hamburg this year could have been his biggest chance) and Ljubicic has a reasonable shot bagging anindoor Master Series toward the year-end at some point and should also figure in the other North American Master Series (despite being no slouch on clay I wouldn't give him much of a shot of winning a MS on clay).
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Re: Who has a greater career at this point..

Davydenko because of his superior Slam results.

But right now it's pointless to speculate as they're both in their primes and will be adding to their career achievements.

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Right now I'd say they are about even.

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Ljubicic because of the DC. Olypics mean nothing to tennis, that's
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Re: Who has a greater career at this point..

You might throw Blake in this lot too. Pretty similar in career achievements to both.

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I dont know about greater career but there doesn't seem to be a contest in the number of threads dedicated, is there. Atleast you can say if there was a Slam Indoors or a Slam the week before a Slam, they would have probably both won one by now.
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Why would a team competition which is well known that is played in pretty different conditions than regular tournaments would be added when you consider individual achievments? I find this strange, no matter how perfect someone might have performed there, sorry.
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Re: Who has a greater career at this point..

It is wonderful that all Kolya, Ivan and Blake never win AMS.
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Re: Who has a greater career at this point..

Davydenko. he's won a little bit more.
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even

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